RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-26 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Hi, Ned What you've stated below is a misapplication of the standard. ยง4.5.1 (you quote from 60950/60950-1) is related to normal operating condition testing, rather than the abnormal operating condition of ventilation opening blockage. I also doubt that instructions will include starving of

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread simon_...@emc.com
In my experience UL always required to block one side at a time, and offered to try to shorten the test time by blocking all. Not a requirement by any means. Leo Simon Consulting Compliance Engineer EMC Corporation 80 South St. Hopkinton, MA 01748 Tel 508-249-5022 Fax 508-249-5500 From:

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread Gary McInturff
: Stone, Richard [mailto:rst...@xl.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 10:28 AM To: Brian O'Connell; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Blocked ventillation testing could this be in susbstitution for complete 100% fantray failure? I dont think its vaild, as youd still have openings

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread FastWave
Having worked at UL for many years in ITE, and having been the UL seminar leader for ITE for several years, blocking vents during on one side only was always the rule/what we taught = one fault at a time. Of course the years have been adding on since my days at UL so things may have changed. I

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread Ned Devine
. If it is not rack mounted, then they are over testing. Ned Devine Entela Inc From: Peter L. Tarver [mailto:peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:32 PM To: PSTC Cc: Robert Johnson Subject: RE: Blocked ventillation testing Bob - You're quite right that the proposed

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread Stone, Richard
...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Brian O'Connell Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 12:28 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: Blocked ventillation testing At least for 60950-1, this should be considered a multiple fault; unless the intended end-use

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread Gary McInturff
One fault at a time. You can choose, your decision not theirs, to block all at once to save time. (Make them show you how much they are going to reduce the test cost with this streamlined testing Gary From: Robert Johnson [mailto:robe...@rcn.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 7:56 AM To:

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread Peter L. Tarver
Bob - You're quite right that the proposed test constitutes a multiple fault condition and is not supported by any UL standard that I am aware of. I have never had any agency request blocking of all equipment ventilation openings. UL HK should provide you with a rationale for this testing and

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread Brian O'Connell
At least for 60950-1, this should be considered a multiple fault; unless the intended end-use installation indicates a mechanical situation where all vents blocked could be considered a SFC. I am not aware of any National Differences that would allow this test condition. If UL is acting as an

RE: Blocked ventillation testing

2003-11-25 Thread Joshua Wiseman
Bob, UL 60950 1.4.14 states that faults shall be applied in turn, and one at a time. On the other hand I take a look at the practical operation of the unit being tested. For example one of our units is a floor standing unit that sits off the ground by about 2 inches. Since there will always