I find this a very interesting debate but for those that don't after
this response you should contact me off line.
I do want to make it clear that I certainly don't have the magic answer
and one should decide for themselves - just don't follow along simply because
somebody
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-Original Message-
From: Peter L. Tarver [mailto:peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 11:36 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: CE for IP Phone
All -
One point that seems
Which brings us to the odd conclusion that the only people who really
care what approvals apply are the customs officials. We should probably
be asking them what they expect since they appear pretty autonomous.
Bob Johnson
ITE Safety
-Original Message-
From: Peter L. Tarver
One point
All -
One point that seems to be missing from this discussion is
that an IP telephone looks like a telephone, acts like a
telephone and for all intents and purposes *is* a telephone,
irrespective of how *telecommunication* is transformed,
transmitted, protocol converted, stapled, spindled folded
Subject: RE: CE for IP Phone
Alan,
If the device looks like a telephone and can easily be connected to the POTS
(e.g. RJ-11 or RJ-45), you can assume someone will try to connect it to the
telephone network. So due diligence means RTTE testing and marking, if only
to warn via the 'alert' symbol
Hughes [mailto:rehug...@nortelnetworks.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 05, 2002 7:45 AM
To: 'alan.hud...@amsjv.com'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: CE for IP Phone
Alan,
_IF_ your product is covered by the RTTED _THEN_ there is no lower voltage
limit for safety (or anything else
Subject: Re: CE for IP Phone
Importance: High
Richard Hughes said:
++ Moreover, since the said telephone is connected only to an SELV
Circuit then
++ it falls below the lower voltage limits of the LVD (50 Vac, 75 Vdc)
and so
++ the LVD does not apply.
I thought the RTTED referral to the LVD
Richard Hughes said:
++ Moreover, since the said telephone is connected only to an SELV
Circuit then
++ it falls below the lower voltage limits of the LVD (50 Vac, 75 Vdc)
and so
++ the LVD does not apply.
I thought the RTTED referral to the LVD removed the voltage limits of
the latter?
-Original Message-
From: Peter L. Tarver [mailto:peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com]
Sent: 04 December 2002 16:26
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: CE for IP Phone
All -
My reading of the RTTE indicates that it does indeed apply
to an IP telephone. Please refer to the below, paying
: Wednesday, December 04, 2002 10:50 AM
To: 'Ilan Cohen'; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'
Subject: RE: CE for IP Phone
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I think a Voice over IP is within the scope of the RTTE due to the following
definition in the RTTED
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-Original Message-
From: Ilan Cohen [mailto:ico...@itl.co.il]
Sent: 04 December 2002 06:16
To: 'John Woodgate'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Cc: Peter Merguerian
Subject: RE: CE for IP Phone
I do not think that IP phone is under the RTTE directive. For a simple
reason, voltage
All -
My reading of the RTTE indicates that it does indeed apply
to an IP telephone. Please refer to the below, paying
particular attention to the use of ...indirectly by any
means whatsoever...
Article 2
Definitions
or the purpose of this Directive the following definitions
shall apply:
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From: Ilan Cohen [mailto:ico...@itl.co.il]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:16 PM
To: 'John Woodgate'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Cc: Peter Merguerian
Subject: RE: CE for IP Phone
I do not think that IP phone is under the RTTE directive. For a simple
reason, voltage is limited to 48 V (SELV
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-Original Message-
From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 1:12 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: CE for IP Phone
I read in !emc-pstc that Peter Merguerian pmerguer...@itl.co.il wrote
(in 2D1037012914D4118DB8204C4F4F50203DDE91@ITLLTD01) about 'CE for IP
Phone' on Tue, 3 Dec 2002:
For Europe, does an IP telephone (all SELV) having no connection to the
telecom network fall under the RTTE Directive or just
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