RE: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-13 Thread Nezam Najafi
...@cubic.com'; Bailin Ma; EMC-PSTC Subject: RE: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet Let's see here. My mommy sent me to college so that I could play with tinfoil, and theorize about toilets! Heavy sigh!. I think we have missed the obvious point here. This whole things boils down to a computer dump! If you

RE: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-12 Thread James, Chris
Does flushing the toilet activate an electrical appliance such as an extract fan or macerating system (used in remote sited toilets where small bore pipe work is used - common equipment is a Saniflo unit - www.saniflo.com)? Chris -Original Message- From: b...@namg.us.anritsu.com

Re: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-12 Thread Douglas McKean
Someone may have already suggested this but here goes ... (1) Fabricate an EMC story to relate the cause (Flushing toilet) to the effect (Rebooting PC). A major current draw from the same circuit to which the PC is connected appears to be happening at the same time the toilet is

Re: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-12 Thread Dale Albright
Dear Customer, In order to speculate the cause to the effect, please answer the following question: Is the water to which your house is connected supplied via the city water supply, or supplied via your own well pump? Answer: I live in a rural area and have a well pump. After careful thought

Re: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-12 Thread Brian At Work
In addition to all the other suggestions, I would check the heating elements in the water heater. Some years ago a power surge caused by a near lightning strike damaged one of the heating elements in our water heater. One side of the 220VAC was shorting into the water through a crack in the

RE: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-09 Thread John Juhasz
Is this a joke? -Original Message- From: b...@namg.us.anritsu.com [mailto:b...@namg.us.anritsu.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 1969 6:00 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet Greeting to the group, EMC engineers in a PC maker received a customer's

RE: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-09 Thread Gary McInturff
Off the top of my head I guess I would have to assume that it has to do with power delivery rather than a data line spike. A spike into one of the data I/O would be more likely disrupt the current application and maybe cause a program lock-up but should cause a re-boot. Flushing water may create

Re: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-09 Thread ed . price
Barry: I would be tempted to say that the reboot is actually an undocumented feature in which bad data is automatically flushed from the system. But this actually sounds like a clear case of hydraulic hammer. In typical residential construction, all utilities, including water and electric

RE: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-09 Thread Campi, Mike
Barry - I know of only two reasons and one wild speculation on why flushing a toilet would cause the computer to reboot - 1. See if they have installed an automatic flusher on their toilet and if it is on the same circuit as the PC. If this is the case then a line conditioner between the

RE: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-09 Thread Scott Douglas
Barry, Wild stab in the dark here. The PC is grounded to the plumbing. The Plumbing is a mixture of grounded and ungrounded parts. When the water flowing in the plumbing from the toilet flush connects two dissimilar grounded parts of the plumbing, one is noisy and causes the PC to reboot. To

RE: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet

1999-07-09 Thread Gary McInturff
-Original Message- From: ed.pr...@cubic.com [SMTP:ed.pr...@cubic.com] Sent: Friday, July 09, 1999 11:28 AM To: Bailin Ma; EMC-PSTC Subject:Re: EMC Detective and Flushing Toilet Barry: I would be tempted to say that the reboot