RE: Safety EMC - which 1st?

2004-04-02 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
at: http://www.ieeecommunities.org/emc-pstc Title: RE: Safety EMC - which 1st? Bill, My preference is to design in safety while staying mindful of EMC. Although it is not possible to accurately predict exactly how a change will affect EMC, it is generally much easier to do so with safety

Re: Safety EMC - which 1st?

2004-03-30 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Bill et al, IMO there is no easy answer to the problem of one area of test provoking design changes affecting another area of test. A diverse product line, such as individually sold PC cards and a line of complete systems, would call for a different approach as needs demand (often cost

RE: Safety EMC - which 1st?

2004-03-30 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Always do all Emissions testing first. Followed by EMC testing. Then Safety is last. Regards, Doug McKean _ Get rid of annoying pop-up ads with the new MSN Toolbar – FREE! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200414ave/direct/01/

RE: Safety EMC - which 1st?

2004-03-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
In addition, some design elements used to mitigate EMC issues, such as compression gasketing, can be inadvertently damaged during safety testing. In order to maintain the EMC integrity of an off-the-factory-floor product, it often makes sense to test EMC first. Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE

Re: Safety EMC - which 1st?

2004-03-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I would agree except for medical equipment (especially patient connected). EMC engineering likes to shunt energy to ground and frame. This is a big no-no for medical safety. Bob Heller Senior EMC Engineer 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax:

Re: Safety EMC - which 1st?

2004-03-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
It may not be always true, but my experience is that Safety compliance can pretty much be achieved by careful implementation of the requirements in and during product design. If all the requirements and recommendations have been followed, you can mostly be certain of the result. This is not

Re: Safety EMC - which 1st?

2004-03-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
I read in !emc-pstc that FastWave bi...@fastwave.com wrote (in f6760896d8b96a499c62ed44754e910d92b...@hades.edd.com) about 'Safety EMC - which 1st?' on Mon, 29 Mar 2004: Certainly we would all prefer that our company's products be designed for initial/immediate compliance, that we have multiple

Re: Safety EMC - which 1st?

2004-03-29 Thread owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Reasonable approach, with one proviso. EMC tests generally are less likely to break the EUT than safety tests. So if the number of prototypes is extremely limited and repairs are difficult, then EMC testing first may be appropriate. -- John McBain johnmcb...@ieee.org . From: FastWave