Re: [PSES] UL = IEC ??

2021-01-21 Thread Ruth Shapira
In principle is right, but UL can add US Differences, referring to UL standards and NEC requirements. Best Regards and Be Safe, Steli Steli Loznen, M.Sc., SM-IEEE VP for Technical Activities and Member of BoG IEEE-PSES Convener IEC 62A/MT29+MT 62354 17-3 Shaul HaMelech Blvd. Tel Aviv 6436719

[PSES] AW: [PSES] UL = IEC ??

2021-01-21 Thread Dürrer Bernd
Hello Amund, I most often use UL 61800-5-1 that contains numerous and significant national deviations from IEC 61800-5-1. Most of these adapt the requirements of the IEC standard to those of the NEC NFPA 70, and to those of UL component standards. If you have a specific standard in mind, you

[PSES] UL = IEC ??

2021-01-21 Thread Amund Westin
When IEC publish a standard, do UL adopt it as is, or do they modify it? I guess this will vary form case to case. Right? Best regards Amund - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc

[PSES] Energy efficiency for power supplies...

2021-01-21 Thread Matthew Wilson | GBE
EU 2019/1782 is the ecodesign requirements for external power supplies, i.e. their efficiency, for Directive 2009/125/EC. Someone asked me how the formula in 1(b) of Annex II of the EU 2019/1782 regulation was decided upon. This table sets out the determination of 'average active efficiency'.

Re: [PSES] Energy efficiency for power supplies...

2021-01-21 Thread John Woodgate
The requirements were negotiated between EC-hired consultants and industry stakeholders. Or so I was assured. == Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK "A nation

Re: [PSES] Energy efficiency for power supplies...

2021-01-21 Thread Chris Wordley
Hi Matthew Although I’ve not checked that they all correlate, I believe that the efficiency calculations originate from the International Efficiency Marking Protocol for External Power Supplies: https://beta.regulations.gov/document/EERE-2008-BT-STD-0005-0218

Re: [PSES] UL = IEC ??

2021-01-21 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Amund: First and foremost, both the IEC and UL make money selling standards. Second, UL does not adopt any IEC standard, or most other non-UL standards. UL will test to an IEC standard, and may issue a CB test report, but not the right to use their certification mark. UL will

Re: [PSES] UL = IEC ??

2021-01-21 Thread Pete Perkins
Amund,To expand on what Rich as said, UL adapted IEC 60950 ITE products and IEC 61010 commercial/industrial electronic equipment as UL standards early on so there have been harmonized IEC/UL requirements for these products for 30 years; IEC 60950 has been replace by IEC 623268-1