Re: Measuring Power Supply Output Current

2003-02-17 Thread Ken Javor
I wasn't going to weigh in on this one, but this last posting captured what I had been thinking. I think the emphasis on true rms readings on a dc supply is mistaken. I think you need to know two things. The maximum power your boards draw because that is what what you were told to determine, an

RE: Measuring Power Supply Output Current

2003-02-17 Thread Sam Davis
Rick, Another method you may want to pursue is using a multiple channel datalogger and current shunts. The datalogger can be set to scan every second or quicker, and can monitor multiple channels at once, so you can see the current peaks for each voltage separately, and can show over time what t

RE: Measuring Power Supply Output Current

2003-02-17 Thread Bruce Touzel (EUD)
"Crest Factor" - is a measure of how well the True RMS meter will measure the non-sinusoidal waveform. - maybe compare this spec with various meters ? From: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 2:52 PM To: rbus...@es.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:

Re: Measuring Power Supply Output Current

2003-02-17 Thread don_borow...@selinc.com
If the power supply voltage is "stiff", then all you need measure is the average current. The average current times the voltage will give you the correct average power. If the supply voltage is not stiff, then the process is more complex. You will need to measure the voltage and the current, mul

Re: Measuring Power Supply Output Current

2003-02-17 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Rick: > On the surface it seemed like a simple exercise of putting a DC current > meter in series with each of the outputs. Given that the current demand > for each of these outputs is dynamic, corresponding with the processing > activity, does it make sense to measure this output

re: calibrated site source

2003-02-17 Thread Ken Javor
Check out Credence Technologies: http://www.credencetech.com Their site source is at: http://www.credencetech.com/ERS.htm and it comes pre-calibrated. I built one myself a number of years ago and the only problem with it was frequency drift. It was very simple. It used a 74123 one shot to es

RE: Measuring Power Supply Output Current

2003-02-17 Thread drcuthbert
Rick, I like to use a clamp-on DC current probe and an oscilloscope. Tektronix makes these probes. If the 'scope has an RMS feature it will calculate the RMS current over the length of the trace. In this way you can adjust the length of the RMS operation. If your 'scope does not have this feature

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2003-02-17 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Hello all, I am searching for small package comb generator with amplitude calibrated output. Any resources you can give me are much appreciated. I will even entertain the idea of constructing one. best regards, -doug Douglas E. Powell Regulatory Compliance Engineer Advanced Energy Industr

Measuring Power Supply Output Current

2003-02-17 Thread rbus...@es.com
I have been asked by my TUV office to measure the actual output current for each of the 5-7 voltages on my PC power supplies. The purpose of this is to baseline the maximum output current in terms of maximum power, not instantaneous current, for each of the various motherboards we use. On the sur

Re: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Alice: > Scenario : Component A with rating mentioned in the UL's product report as > 90-135/180-265 Vac, however in the phyical unit is written as 115/230 V . > Q1 : Is this a non conformity ? Should a VN be raised ? Yes, this is a non-conformity. In this case, the report should b

RE: Symbols and Markings: Color scheme

2003-02-17 Thread Brian Epstein
Also look at SEMI S20, Safety Guideline for Identification and Documentation of Energy Isolation Devices for Hazardous Energy Control. Best regards, Brian Epstein Sr Regulatory Compliance Engineer Veeco Instruments 112 Robin Hill Rd Santa Barbara CA 93117 805-967-2700 x2315 brian.epst...@veeco.co

RE: OATS Building

2003-02-17 Thread Price, Ed
>-Original Message- >From: Wan Juang Foo [mailto:f...@np.edu.sg] >Sent: Friday, February 14, 2003 5:47 PM >To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >Subject: Re: OATS Building > > > > >Walt, >I don't think an inflatable structure is going to be a good >candidate to be >a 'radome' (sp?) unless t

RE: Grounding of EUT in EN61000-4-6 conducted immunity test

2003-02-17 Thread Gordon,Ian
Dan et al I have a Word document which I believe gives guidance on this matter. If you would like a copy please let me know. Ian Gordon _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Serv

Re: Grounding of EUT in EN61000-4-6 conducted immunity test

2003-02-17 Thread Ken Javor
Well, you will recall I didn't answer until a couple days went by and no one else had addressed the issue. That's because I also felt there would be people out there with more practical experience. All I said was that the test set-up was designed with commercial products in mind that do not get

Re: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread soundsu...@aol.com
Scenario : Component A with rating mentioned in the UL's product report as 90-135/180-265 Vac, however in the phyical unit is written as 115/230 V . Q1 : Is this a non conformity ? Should a VN be raised ?< Theoretically, it's a non-conformity, however if the component is being used wit

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread bryan.c...@control-concepts.com
Alice, I have found that inspectors have allowed a manufacturer to claim more stringent or limited ratings than what is in the UL report. In some products that are rated at 120v from line-to-neutral, but are truly 3-phase products, it has been customary that you can denote the operating voltage

RE: Grounding of EUT in EN61000-4-6 conducted immunity test

2003-02-17 Thread Dan Kinney (A)
Mr. Javor, I guess I can't argue your points until I read your paper. Please send me a Word copy. I assure you, I will respect the copyright and destroy the article after I read it. I think Mr. Betz original post needs to be answered in more thorough detail >from a practical application of the

Rif: Re: 60601-1-2:2002

2003-02-17 Thread Paolo Peruzzi
Hi all, As far as I know, EN 60601-1-2 (2001) is listed on OJ since last december, see: http://europa.eu.int/eur-lex/it/dat/2002/c_310/c_31020021213it00040011.pdf Best regards, Paolo Peruzzi ** Paolo Peruzzi Esaote S.p.A. Research & Product Dev

Re: 60601-1-2:2002

2003-02-17 Thread has...@a-pex.co.jp
Hello Bob, Not, yet. You can check it below web site. http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/newapproach/standardization/harmstds/r eflist/meddevic.html But I think you should use new version, if available. Best regards, Tetsuya Hashimoto A-PEX International Co.Ltd. www.a-pex.co.jp > Is EN 6060

60601-1-2:2002

2003-02-17 Thread rehel...@mmm.com
Is EN 60601-1-2:2002 listed in the OJ? I can only find reference to the 1993 version. Can we officially use the latest version? Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 === This mess

RE: Looking for Tables of Metric Wire Sizes

2003-02-17 Thread Gordon,Ian
John Does this link provide relevant information? http://website.lineone.net/~dave.cushman/wiregauge.html Ian Gordon _ This e-mail has been scanned for viruses by the WorldCom Internet Managed Scanning Service - powered by Mess

RMCEMC Slide correction

2003-02-17 Thread Charles Grasso
To all interested parties: The slides from our January presentation : Power Distribution System Decoupling - How 'bout them vias? is available from our website at http://www.ieee.org/rmcemc If you have previously downloaded the file then please replace it. Apologies to one and all. I would als

product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread Lay Siang Saw
Hi all,can anyone share with me with your comments Scenario : Component A with rating mentioned in the UL's product report as 90-135/180-265 Vac, however in the phyical unit is written as 115/230 V . Q1 : Is this a non conformity ? Should a VN be raised ? Scenario :In the report, it mentioned

RE: North American Production-Line Tests; ANSI or Other

2003-02-17 Thread Lay Siang Saw
Hi Rich , I am new to Product safety but i'd like to share what i know on the hipot and grounding/bonding test requirement. Basically these two test are basic test required for product safety testing. However it also depend on whether the equipment is class I or II for electronic and ele