Re: [PSES] Looking for an alternative to SII in Israel

2013-07-19 Thread Peter Merguerian
Peter The other alternative is Ministry of Industry and Trade application of exemption based on test reports but it may not be available - depends on HS code To get SII you need a person on the ground and who speaks the same language Let me know how I can help Sent from my iPhone Peter S. Me

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Brian Oconnell
I suppose that someone should do a session at the symposium on Errors, Omissions, Obligations, and Professional Ethics for Compliance Engineers. Support of sales is important; and should be in a regulatory professional's pro forma list. I have prefaced all requestedd compliance requirements with c

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread McInturff, Gary
Thanks Jim. I'm aware of those as well. If justification could be made to jump to the appropriate edition we would also upgrade for the latest amendment, and quite possible proposed changes under the right circumstances. Thanks all Gary -Original Message- From: Jim Hulbert [mailto:jim

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Gary: Personally, I support the sales force with whatever they need. If I understand correctly, you have low-voltage device. Chances are that none of the standards changes affect your device. Updating your certification should take less time than arguing against the work, and would make you

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread McInturff, Gary
Ha now I'm getting new words - lost favor and expired, but not so not sure I have asked the right question and I have a follow-up question. First of all my preference would be to update to the current standards etc but we have an existing product with very small sales for Europe. Sales is all o

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Jim Hulbert
There are also amendments. As of 01 Mar 2013, this means EN60950-1:2006 plus amendments A11:2006 , A1:2010, and A12:2011. Jim Hulbert -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Peter Tarver Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 11:35 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSER

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Peter Tarver
Gary - Per the list of harmonized standards published by the European Commission, EN 60950-1:2001 was superseded by EN60950-1:2006 on 1JAN2010. Per CENELC's web site, EN60950-1:2006 was published in 14APR2006. If we were to assume even a three months delay before being published in the EU OJ, th

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread Charlie Blackham
Gary You have a "presumption of conformity" when you apply a Harmonised Standard up until it is superseded by a new version (or new amendment to existing version) - the DOCOPOCOSS date. For LVD there is no requirement to use Harmonised Standards. However, evidence/experience/heresay would sugg

Re: [PSES] 60950 1st edition and amendments

2013-07-19 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 19 Jul 2013, "McInturff, Gary" writes: Thanks for the input so far and the date of standard withdrawal, but still need to understand if I can maintain presumption of conformity if the docopos-whatever hasn't expired. The docopocoss is the date at which the old stan

Re: [PSES] Power distribution submetering application - Safety standard for Instrument Current Transformers on mains relative to IEC/EN/UL61010-1 3rd & 61010-2-030?

2013-07-19 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Fri, 19 Jul 2013, Chris Wells writes: I was also advised to consider EN61869-1:2009 - Instrument Transformers, General Requirements & EN61869-2:2012 - Instrument Transformers, Additional Requirements for Current Transformers. I agree; the original IEC documents were not s

Re: [PSES] Power distribution submetering application - Safety standard for Instrument Current Transformers on mains relative to IEC/EN/UL61010-1 3rd & 61010-2-030?

2013-07-19 Thread Chris Wells
Thanks John Besides IEC 60044-8. the general transformer standard IEC 61558-1, -2.4 and -2.6 I was also advised to consider EN61869-1:2009 - Instrument Transformers, General Requirements & EN61869-2:2012 - Instrument Transformers, Additional Requirements for Current Transformers. Chris Wells

Re: [PSES] India ITE approvals

2013-07-19 Thread Tyra, John
Can't comment on ITE equipment since we make Audio Video products but I have found this process to be very chaotic and time consuming for our products There was a considerable amount of documentation required especially for the manufacturing facilities. There are only a handful of accredited l

Re: [PSES] Lock washers for bolted bonding connections

2013-07-19 Thread Ed Price
The USA standard on this used to be MIL-B-5087, but I'm sure that must have been superseded by now. Still, it essentially said no star washer, use split-ring washers only. The rationale was stars only made tiny point-contacts, which could be vaporized and cause arcing under high-fault conditions. I

Re: [PSES] EMC Required?

2013-07-19 Thread Anthony Thomson
Hello Scott, Here are my rambling thoughts For the EU, I think you need to comply with the EMC Directive because I recon your product satisfies the following Directive definition... /‘apparatus’ means any finished appliance or combination thereof made commercially available as a single f