Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU LV Directive 2014/35/EU

2015-08-24 Thread Scott Xe
Hi Charlie, Thanks a million to your detail analysis! As regards to 3. quality system in Annex IV of 2014/53/EU, is it referred to ISO 9001 quality system management? I did not find any reference in current compliant reports of RTTED 99/5/EC. Is it a new requirement for RED? Would it

Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
And audience participation I hope. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 2:14 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track In message 001801d0de2a$ab67e590$0237b0b0$@cs.com,

Re: [PSES] EMC test lab, New York

2015-08-24 Thread John Cochran
Relif Testing Laboratories is the EMC lab I use. They have a lab in Ronkonkoma, NY. Retlif is fully accredited to ISO-STD-17025 and maintains such listing as, FCC recognized, VCCI listed, and EU CAB designated all to insure global acceptance of their test data. John Cochran STRONGARM Designs

[PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Pete Perkins
John, et al, Well, no demonstration... Looked into it several years ago and the IEEE didn't want to cover the liability for such. Too, bad, I've always felt that EE product folks should always know what allowable electric shock feels like. But I do get to describe my own reaction to

Re: [PSES] New EMC Directive 2014/30/EU LV Directive 2014/35/EU

2015-08-24 Thread Michael Derby
Hi Scott, Annex IV of 2014/53/EC is similar to Annex V of 1999/5/EC. It’s an alternative compliance route, not necessarily a test report issue. Michael. From: Scott Xe [mailto:scott...@gmail.com] Sent: 24 August 2015 14:59 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] New

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Woodgate
In message 000c01d0de82$1350c6c0$39f25440$@cs.com, dated Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Pete Perkins peperkin...@cs.com writes: But I do get to describe my own reaction to electric shock (bus not as satisfying for the audience). You could show a video, with sound effects. (;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only.

[PSES] HDMI extension cable recommendation?

2015-08-24 Thread Brent DeWitt
I’m looking for a good quality HDMI extension cable for test use. Price is not an issue since I only need a few. Does anyone have any recommendations based on their shielding and build quality? Thanks! Brent DeWitt Senior EMC Engineer Bose Corporation -

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Kevin Robinson
About 10-15 years ago, there was an advertising video for a Bapco Safety Analyzer that was making the rounds. As I recall the President of the company said he had all of his sales engineers experience what high leakage current felt like by having them hold on to the bare conductors of a circuit

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Allen
Thanks Pete, that'd be great, even without the demonstration. If anyone can find that video Kevin referred to, send it along. The Call for Submissions is here - http://2016.psessymposium.org/sites/2016.psessymposium.org/files/call-for-papers/ISPCE_2016_CFP_v10-web.pdf The first deadline is

Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Woodgate
In message 001801d0de2a$ab67e590$0237b0b0$@cs.com, dated Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes:    I did the Electric Shock for Dummies pitch last year and had a great group attending.  I?m willing to do it again this year, building on last years

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Kunde, Brian
I would love to see a similar demonstration on determining minor to moderate mechanical hazards; pinch, crush, shear, etc. How to measure force, determine contact area, calculating contact pressure, and ultimately determining the Ouch Factor. What protective measure can be use in different

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Ted Eckert
Hotdogs can be used for demonstrations of pinch points. (I recommend not using Chicago style dogshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago-style_hot_dog#/media/File:Chicago-style_hot_dog_2.jpg. The ketchup and mustard are bad enough, but that neon green relish makes a real mess during testing.)

[PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Pete Perkins
Rich, Thanx for chasing the video's. My kids saw Hagagrd's live demo in the 70's and I met him briefly when I picked them up. We'll have to see how to fit some of this in. :) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Ted: You can download the video here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/69937717/ubc/2 0041102-045126.mpg The gentleman is Claude Haggard. I think he lived in Medford, Oregon. This was from a TV show (back in the days of BW TV) he did for Pacific Power to alert rural

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Woodgate
In message cy1pr03mb14704996fac7a7f1c29f473694...@cy1pr03mb1470.namprd03.prod.outlo ok.com, dated Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Ted Eckert ted.eck...@microsoft.com writes: I am proposing hypotheitical demonstrations and I am not specifically endorsing the use of human subjects At least humans could

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Allen
Those are great suggestions!! If either of you - Ted and The Other Brian - or anyone else can put together either presentation they'd both be great for Compliance 101. Any takers?? Only one comment in that there's no ketchup on Chicago style hot dogs!! Best Regards, John John Allen

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Allen
Thanks Rich! The video was great! Best Regards, John John Allen President Product Safety Consulting, Inc. http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 [http://www.productsafetyinc.com/assets/product-safety-consulting.png]http://www.productsafetyinc.com/ Product Safety Consulting

Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Gotta love good ol' Reddy Kilowatt From: John Allen [mailto:jral...@productsafetyinc.com] Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 10:50 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track Thanks Rich!  The video was great!   Best

Re: [PSES] [BULK] Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Ted Eckert
I would like to thank Rich for the link. That is exactly what I was looking for. In response to Mr. Woodgate, I would like to state that I in no way meant to imply that I was endorsing the use of animals in electric shock demonstrations. My preference is to make use of existing references such