Re: [PSES] classification of the output - SawStop

2019-03-14 Thread Edward Price
Pete: Does the SawStop operate by sensing leakage current through the human finger to ground, or does it sense the human body’s capacitance (like those touch sensors that control small table lamps)? Also, I read their literature, but I didn’t see any mention of false-positive actions. Is

Re: [PSES] human skin resistance

2019-03-14 Thread Pete Perkins
Don, et al,My presentation ‘Physical body parameter calculations based upon electrical measurement’ given at the 2008 ISPCE is available (search the web). This paper develops the complex variable analysis (phasor analysis to EE’s) for the usual human body model then works backwards

Re: [PSES] classification of the output

2019-03-14 Thread Mick Maytum
Pete, Glad to see your thoughts agree with mine. With large amplitude voltage pulses there must be some EMC considerations that come into play for equipment EMC compliance. I really wish that some alternative abbreviation had been created instead of ES. Many engineers would be looking

Re: [PSES] human skin resistance

2019-03-14 Thread Don Gies
I had written a paper, “Human Body Impedance Model at Radio Frequencies” for the 2016 IEEE Symposium for Product Compliance Engineering. This paper is on IEEE Xplore. Abstract— This paper examines the frequency response of human body-simulating impedance networks found in information and

Re: [PSES] human skin resistance

2019-03-14 Thread Pete Perkins
The standard body models used in the safety standards to provide electric shock protection provide for a ‘ combo in-and out RC skin impedance’ and a ‘body resistance’. The modeled circuit used in 60990 for large area of contact is skin impedance of 1500 ohms and 0.22uf and the internal body

Re: [PSES] Safety & EMC during Proof of concept

2019-03-14 Thread John Woodgate
It depends on what happens to the product. If it leaves the laboratory, such as to go to an exhibition, then all the requirements apply, in principle, but there are concessions in some countries on EMC but obviously not on safety. If the product stays in 'technical areas' and the radiated and