Re: [PSES] Country Requirements -EMC Safety

2022-08-18 Thread Brian Ceresney
Hi Ryan, All. After years in this predicament, I've defaulted to using the agencies to research the requirements for me. I also list the countries needed and submit for a quote to an agency with an international GMAP group. For a reasonable fee, they will research and provide the information.

Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread Douglas E Powell
I have worked with H.V. power supplies in the past, and there is a point where IEC-based standards simply run out. In most cases, I found certifying agencies are accepting of IEC 61010-1 (or national derivatives) using the tables in Annex K (2010 edition). You still need to pay attention to the

Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread bart . de . geeter
Thanks Gert, I agree with you that the LVD directive is indeed applicable: I looked up the original tekst which states the below: (the confusion was that another source was stating that both input and output voltages needed to fit within these limits, which does not seem to be the

Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread Scott Aldous
You may find this article from UL helpful: https://code-authorities.ul.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/40/2015/02/UL_WP_Final_Effects-of-High-Frequency-Voltage-Stress-on-Air-Insulation-and-Solid-Insulation_v4_HR.pdf On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 12:59 PM Gert Gremmen wrote: > Dear Bart, > > As the

Re: [PSES] Country Requirements -EMC Safety

2022-08-18 Thread Lauren Crane
Hi Ryan, The regulations are publicly available, but are not necessarily public knowledge -- in the sense that any country's regulatory requirements tend to be freely available to in a language their citizens can read, although they are not gathered together in one place with easy to

Re: [PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread Gert Gremmen
Dear Bart, As the input is within the LVD limit, the whole equipment is. EN 61326-1 comes to mind for EMC EN 61010-1 for electrical safety The output is just a "circuit" (in terms of 61010) and clearance and creepage requirement (up to 60 kV) are given in Table 6 and 7 There are more

[PSES] CE marking of a high voltage output supply for laboratory / industrial environmental use

2022-08-18 Thread bart . de . geeter
Dear experts, A client is looking for regulatory guidance to CE certify a high voltage output supply (with regular AC mains 230V/50Hz input). The supply has an output voltage upto 25kV (upto 50kHz) output. It concerns a supply to be used for plasma reactor applications. As the output

Re: [PSES] Country Requirements -EMC Safety

2022-08-18 Thread Michael Anderson
Hi Ryan, I recommend joining IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society. You can tap into a network of experienced compliance engineers (we cover more than just Safety). You may want to consider attending one or more IEEE symposium. This symposium is in San Diego and is coming up in September 20

Re: [PSES] Country Requirements -EMC Safety

2022-08-18 Thread Chris
Ryan, I suggest to list the countries that you need info about regulatory compliance and take that list to an NRTL test lab and open a PO for the work they will get the latest information. Working for a manufacturer I did this process a few years ago and need to do it again as rules keep

[PSES] Country Requirements -EMC Safety

2022-08-18 Thread Ryan Jazz
Dear Members, I am trying to create a list of country requirement as it relates to EMC and Safety requirements. However I have not been successful-These requirements appear to be a mystery. One would think if manufacturers are required to meet country requirements it would be public knowledge. I

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-18 Thread Douglas E Powell
Thanks Dan, So I have to wonder what brand lithium battery Bosch is using. And this is a great starting point for me to dig in a little. -Doug Douglas E Powell Laporte, Colorado USA doug...@gmail.com LinkedIn (UTC -06:00) Mountain Time

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-18 Thread David Schaefer
For electric bikes there is EN 15194 which addresses safety including for battery short circuits. I don’t see it listed in the EMCD OJ though, so I don’t know if it has widespread use. Thanks, [cid:image976208.jpg@3976092F.7C633C81] David Schaefer​ Technical Manager Element Materials

Re: [PSES] Safety for e-scooters, e-bikes

2022-08-18 Thread Dan Roman
Doug/Scott, My wife’s e-bike has a Bosch motor and battery and seems to be well made and certified so I am comfortable storing and charging it in my garage. Included a picture of the label with agency marks, sorry it is a little blurry. So I think there are definitely safety schemes