Re: EN standards

1997-12-13 Thread Gert Gremmen ce-test
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Re: [PSES] Radio modem - RED?

2018-05-09 Thread Gert Gremmen / Ce-test
If i do understand your question: That is why you need a technical file, several of the radio test cannot be applied to a modem, so it is exempted for technical reasons. It will need to operate while testing your system, and also during radio EMC tests. Your risk analysis will show what are

Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-26 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
Hi David, CISPR 32 is not relevant as this is not a Harmonised European standard. While CISPR IEC and EN standards may have similar numberings, they are not the same in all aspects. EN 55032 _is_ a Harmonised European Standard (based on CISPR32) and applies to both Industrial and

Re: [PSES] FW: Industrial Printer

2018-05-26 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
it to a new product. John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only J M Woodgate and Associateswww.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK On 2018-05-26 08:50, Gert Gremmen; ce-test wrote: Hi David, CISPR 32 is not relevant as this is not a Harmonised European standard. While CISPR IEC and EN standards may have

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

2018-04-04 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
The LVD does NOT apply. For elektrical safety and EMC the RED will use it's proper list of harmonised standards. As says: Art 1.4 /Radio equipment//falling within//the scope of this Directive//shall _*not*_ be subject//to Directive//2014/35/EU,//except as//set out in point (a) of Article

Re: [PSES] EU Harmonized RF Exposure Standards per RED for 13.56 MHz RFID

2018-04-04 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
As LVD (2014/35) is not applicable for Radio devices and so RFID, this standard is set up to be harmonized under the RED. Be it as an Electrical Safety Standard under the RED. Look at the provided link. Gert Gremmen On 4-4-2018 15:37, John Woodgate wrote: SECOND RESPONSE I should have

Re: [PSES] EN 55032 Testing on Wired Network Port

2018-04-24 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
EMC testing is like speeding by car. Did you ever try convince an officer that you drove too fast for only a few minutes by year if caught over-speeding?  And what did he say ? Ports do not need testing only if inoperable at all. And even than, from a technical point of view it may generate

Re: [PSES] Medical device risk assessment - faulty chargers

2018-04-17 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
Life is consist of risk assessments! If you cross a road, you quickly assess the risk of safely getting to the other side. What you call a scientific method, is a risk assessment based on physical hypotheses , but the hypothesis might be wrong tomorrow, or in another place. But the chance

Re: [PSES] Medical device risk assessment - faulty chargers

2018-04-16 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
I believe that charging a device within the MDD when connected to a patient is not normal use but to be classified (foreseeable) misuse. Some remarks: 1. An apparatus that requires charging is most often meant to be used while not connected to the mains; why use a battery otherwise. Most

Re: [PSES] EMC tests called up in Safety standards

2018-03-21 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
The EMC tests as called out in 60335  are safety tests, contrary to those called out under the EMCD that are functional tests only. For Europe , one can discuss about the necessity of those tests, as the EMCD  requires testing in all operating modes including OFF or standby and  as long as one

Re: [PSES] Field probe calibration

2018-03-04 Thread Gert Gremmen; ce-test
IMHO all probes are calibrated under far field conditions. In general: Using probes in the proximity (< lambda) of anything conductive (including ground planes at 10 cm and including EUT) makes the measurement data useless. As James correctly states, the construction of the probe makes this

RE: Using ITE EMC Standards for Non-ITE Equipment

2002-04-11 Thread Gert Gremmen : ce-test, qualified testing
to the requirement. The fact that a radiated instead of a conducted measurement is made ; is more close to the essential requirement. For test phenomena both are equal (but for the F-range) Then the choice for immunity should follow the same logic. Gert Gremmen ce-test, qualified testing -Original

RE: Scope of EN 61000-4-8 (Power Frequency Magnetic Testing)

2002-03-27 Thread Gert Gremmen : ce-test, qualified testing
Hi Chet, There are many other standard electronic equipment that qualify them for these tests; possibly not in the phase of compliance seeking, but at least when looking for simple quality. Magnetic fields tend to build up low value EMF sources in series with loops and have extremely low

RE: Electric field radiation from rf currents

2002-03-11 Thread Gert Gremmen : ce-test, qualified testing
As i remember the factor L (cable length) in the equation is an simplification of the real value sin(L). As one may remember , sin(L)=L for L very small. As the formula was meant for small dipoles, that is close to correct. I remember also that already L in sinus(L) was simplified from a factor

RE: ESD Generator confidence test (humor)

2002-03-05 Thread Gert Gremmen : ce-test, qualified testing
Did you all know that an ESD charge may be well simulated by the famous 3M Post-it notes. My wife works in a company where life-size 3M Post-it notes are used with the paper side down to get rid of dust onder shoes of people entering a clean room. When changing sheets she get's loaded to a