Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-17 Thread Larry K. Stillings
er given nor endorsed by it. From: Paolo Roncone Sent: Friday, July 14, 2023 4:54 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] 6dB pad Hi all, I'm having a discussion with my colleague about the use of a fixed 6dB attenuation pad at the input of the EMI receiver for radiated EMI in the range

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-16 Thread Ken Javor
, because nowadays the effects of these different detectors are simulated in software. -- Ken Javor (256) 650-5261 From: Paolo Roncone Reply-To: Paolo Roncone Date: Sunday, July 16, 2023 at 3:57 AM To: Subject: Re: [PSES] 6dB pad Hi Ken and all others, Thanks again for your

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-16 Thread Paolo Roncone
> *Reply-To: * > *Date: *Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 4:28 PM > *To: * > *Subject: *Re: [PSES] 6dB pad > > > > > > This discussion not only applies to EMI testing, it also applies to > high-frequency and fast risetime pulse voltage measurements. A 6 dB (2x > voltage atte

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-15 Thread Ken Javor
PM To: Subject: Re: [PSES] 6dB pad This discussion not only applies to EMI testing, it also applies to high-frequency and fast risetime pulse voltage measurements. A 6 dB (2x voltage attenuation) or 10 dB (~3x voltage attenuation) in a 50-ohm system which would otherwise be subject

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-15 Thread Richard Nute
Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2023 10:15 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] 6dB pad Receiver vswr is specified with 10 dB attenuation because the mixer itself is not 50 Ω. Antenna vswr is usually best in the middle of the usable frequency range. Worst case at the low end

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-15 Thread Ken Javor
, 2023 at 11:17 AM To: Ken Javor Cc: Subject: Re: [PSES] 6dB pad Hi Ken and Tom Thanks for your inputs. Yes, the 6 dB pad is at the receiver input, in addition or not (depending on the signal level) to the built-in attenuator of the receiver. If the same 6dB pad is put at the antenna

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-15 Thread Ken Javor
-related uncertainty. Unfortunately, you often cannot stand the desensitization of all the extra attenuation. -- Ken Javor (256) 650-5261 From: Paolo Roncone Reply-To: Paolo Roncone Date: Saturday, July 15, 2023 at 10:29 AM To: Subject: Re: [PSES] 6dB pad Hi Ken Thanks

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-15 Thread Paolo Roncone
Hi Ken and Tom Thanks for your inputs. Yes, the 6 dB pad is at the receiver input, in addition or not (depending on the signal level) to the built-in attenuator of the receiver. If the same 6dB pad is put at the antenna output instead of receiver input, it's at the other end of the cable

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-15 Thread Paolo Roncone
should help with that, > once you are out of band to it. > > > > Band stop filters will help with known transmitters. > > > > -- > > Ken Javor > > (256) 650-5261 > > > > *From: *Paolo Roncone > *Reply-To: *Paolo Roncone > *Date: *Friday, J

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-14 Thread Ken Javor
But he is placing the pad at the receiver input in lieu of an internally selected 10 dB, not at the antenna's output port. -- Ken Javor (256) 650-5261 On 7/14/23, 6:00 PM, "T.Sato" wrote: On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 22:53:41 +0200, Paolo Roncone wrote: > I'm having a discussion

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-14 Thread T.Sato
On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 22:53:41 +0200, Paolo Roncone wrote: > I'm having a discussion with my colleague about the use of a fixed 6dB > attenuation pad at the input of the EMI receiver for radiated EMI in the > range 30MHz - 6GHz. > The pad I'm using is a Weinschel 6dB N-type 50ohm. > My colleague

Re: [PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-14 Thread Ken Javor
Roncone Reply-To: Paolo Roncone Date: Friday, July 14, 2023 at 3:53 PM To: Subject: [PSES] 6dB pad Hi all, I'm having a discussion with my colleague about the use of a fixed 6dB attenuation pad at the input of the EMI receiver for radiated EMI in the range 30MHz - 6GHz. The pad I'm using

[PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-14 Thread Paolo Roncone
Hi all, I'm having a discussion with my colleague about the use of a fixed 6dB attenuation pad at the input of the EMI receiver for radiated EMI in the range 30MHz - 6GHz. The pad I'm using is a Weinschel 6dB N-type 50ohm. My colleague says the pad is an unnecessary element in the measurement

[PSES] 6dB pad

2023-07-14 Thread Paolo Roncone
Hi all, I'm having a discussion with my colleague about the use of a fixed 6dB attenuation pad at the input of the EMI receiver for radiated EMI in the range 30MHz - 6GHz. The pad I'm using is a Weinschel 6dB N-type 50ohm. My colleague says the pad is an unnecessary element in the measurement