Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
Hi Mike, Electronic labelling has always been unpopular with some of the European market surveillance groups and therefore considered forbidden. To the point that the industry was given the impression that electronic CE Marking would never happen in Europe. It seems that the European Commission did not agree fully with the interpretation because the new Radio Equipment Directive does include text which should open the door for electronic labelling of certain devices, such as devices with an integral screen, in the future. I hope we should get more information from the European Commission on this, as the guidance comes in for the Radio Equipment Directive. There is a suggestion that devices with an integral screen which use an electronic CE Mark but are not supplied with charged batteries may require a ‘peel off’ temporary label with a CE Mark on it, so that the user can see the CE Mark before they charge it. People have said to me: “Why would that be needed for a phone etc., because it cannot actually transmit until it is charged anyway, by which time the user can see the CE Mark!” ….but, it’s important to remember that the CE Mark includes safety and EMC, so the user should not be plugging a device into a mains charger if they have not yet seen the CE Mark. J Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Mike Violette [mailto:mi...@acbcert.com] Sent: 01 August 2014 19:42 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, McDiarmid, Ralph ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com wrote: Do you mean the e-mark or the E-mark? ___ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering Phone: +1-604-422-2622 | Address: 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby, BC, V5G4M1 e-mail: mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com | Site:Site: http://www.sesolar.com/ www.SEsolar.com From: Mike Violette mi...@acbcert.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 08/01/2014 04:33 AM Subject: [PSES] E-Labelling? _ Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the world in general. I understand that the FCC has made some small movements in acceptance of e-labeling and Japan has some situation where e-labeling is ok, but solicit information on other markets' approaches. Thanks, Mike Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. __ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org
Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
Hi Michael, FYI, e-labelling is already permitted in the medical devices area and is covered by Regulation 207/2012. Permission is limited and anything ending up with a patient has to be provided with paper, but this might give an idea of how it might develop for ITE, especially with internet provision. Best regards, Paul Paul Lovell Compliance Engineer Cisco International Limited plov...@cisco.commailto:plov...@cisco.com Phone: +44 (0) 208 824 4843 Mobile: +44 (0) 775 843 1260 From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com] Sent: 04 August 2014 10:29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Hi Mike, Electronic labelling has always been unpopular with some of the European market surveillance groups and therefore considered forbidden. To the point that the industry was given the impression that electronic CE Marking would never happen in Europe. It seems that the European Commission did not agree fully with the interpretation because the new Radio Equipment Directive does include text which should open the door for electronic labelling of certain devices, such as devices with an integral screen, in the future. I hope we should get more information from the European Commission on this, as the guidance comes in for the Radio Equipment Directive. There is a suggestion that devices with an integral screen which use an electronic CE Mark but are not supplied with charged batteries may require a ‘peel off’ temporary label with a CE Mark on it, so that the user can see the CE Mark before they charge it. People have said to me: “Why would that be needed for a phone etc., because it cannot actually transmit until it is charged anyway, by which time the user can see the CE Mark!” ….but, it’s important to remember that the CE Mark includes safety and EMC, so the user should not be plugging a device into a mains charger if they have not yet seen the CE Mark. ☺ Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Mike Violette [mailto:mi...@acbcert.com] Sent: 01 August 2014 19:42 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, McDiarmid, Ralph ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.commailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com wrote: Do you mean the e-mark or the E-mark? ___ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering Phone: +1-604-422-2622 | Address: 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby, BC, V5G4M1 e-mail: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.commailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com | Site:Site: www.SEsolar.comhttp://www.sesolar.com/ From: Mike Violette mi...@acbcert.commailto:mi...@acbcert.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 08/01/2014 04:33 AM Subject: [PSES] E-Labelling? Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the world in general. I understand that the FCC has made some small movements in acceptance of e-labeling and Japan has some situation where e-labeling is ok, but solicit information on other markets' approaches. Thanks, Mike Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.commailto:mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. __ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list
Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
In message 052201cfafc6$8f2907d0$ad7b1770$@acbcert.com, dated Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com writes: There is a suggestion that devices with an integral screen which use an electronic CE Mark but are not supplied with charged batteries may require a ‘peel off’ temporary label with a CE Mark on it, so that the user can see the CE Mark before they charge it. The CE mark is addressed to customs and market surveillance authorities, and it is they who need the stick-on label. The CE mark is not addressed to users. If it were, we should see Press ads telling the general public to look for the mark before buying products. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Quid faciamus nisi sit? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
HI Paul, Good point…. Disclaimer, I only had my RTTE hat on. J Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Paul Lovell (plovell) [mailto:plov...@cisco.com] Sent: 04 August 2014 11:20 To: Michael Derby; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] E-Labelling? Hi Michael, FYI, e-labelling is already permitted in the medical devices area and is covered by Regulation 207/2012. Permission is limited and anything ending up with a patient has to be provided with paper, but this might give an idea of how it might develop for ITE, especially with internet provision. Best regards, Paul Paul Lovell Compliance Engineer Cisco International Limited mailto:plov...@cisco.com plov...@cisco.com Phone: +44 (0) 208 824 4843 Mobile: +44 (0) 775 843 1260 From: Michael Derby [mailto:micha...@acbcert.com] Sent: 04 August 2014 10:29 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Hi Mike, Electronic labelling has always been unpopular with some of the European market surveillance groups and therefore considered forbidden. To the point that the industry was given the impression that electronic CE Marking would never happen in Europe. It seems that the European Commission did not agree fully with the interpretation because the new Radio Equipment Directive does include text which should open the door for electronic labelling of certain devices, such as devices with an integral screen, in the future. I hope we should get more information from the European Commission on this, as the guidance comes in for the Radio Equipment Directive. There is a suggestion that devices with an integral screen which use an electronic CE Mark but are not supplied with charged batteries may require a ‘peel off’ temporary label with a CE Mark on it, so that the user can see the CE Mark before they charge it. People have said to me: “Why would that be needed for a phone etc., because it cannot actually transmit until it is charged anyway, by which time the user can see the CE Mark!” ….but, it’s important to remember that the CE Mark includes safety and EMC, so the user should not be plugging a device into a mains charger if they have not yet seen the CE Mark. J Thanks, Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe From: Mike Violette [mailto:mi...@acbcert.com] Sent: 01 August 2014 19:42 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, McDiarmid, Ralph ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com wrote: Do you mean the e-mark or the E-mark? ___ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering Phone: +1-604-422-2622 | Address: 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby, BC, V5G4M1 e-mail: mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com | Site:Site: http://www.sesolar.com/ www.SEsolar.com From: Mike Violette mi...@acbcert.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 08/01/2014 04:33 AM Subject: [PSES] E-Labelling? _ Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the world in general. I understand that the FCC has made some small movements in acceptance of e-labeling and Japan has some situation where e-labeling is ok, but solicit information on other markets' approaches. Thanks, Mike Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com __ This email has been scanned
Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
Thanks John. So, the 'charged battery' issue is to allow market surveillance and customs to power it on? Don't forget that the Alert Symbol was intended to alert the user to a restriction and I don't recall much information to the public about that. :-) (I guess that's why it's being removed through the RE D). When discussing electronic CE Marking, one of the main arguments against electronic labelling by ADCO was that they wanted to strengthen the 'brand' of the CE Mark in the public eye; and removing it from the product was going in the wrong direction. So, I'm not sure if there are mixed messages about whether it is just for customs and MSAs, or if it's for the user also? Not disagreeing, just thinking. Michael. Michael Derby Regulatory Engineer ACB Europe -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: 04 August 2014 11:14 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? In message 052201cfafc6$8f2907d0$ad7b1770$@acbcert.com, dated Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com writes: There is a suggestion that devices with an integral screen which use an electronic CE Mark but are not supplied with charged batteries may require a ‘peel off’ temporary label with a CE Mark on it, so that the user can see the CE Mark before they charge it. The CE mark is addressed to customs and market surveillance authorities, and it is they who need the stick-on label. The CE mark is not addressed to users. If it were, we should see Press ads telling the general public to look for the mark before buying products. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Quid faciamus nisi sit? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
In message 059401cfafcf$482689d0$d8739d70$@acbcert.com, dated Mon, 4 Aug 2014, Michael Derby micha...@acbcert.com writes: So, I'm not sure if there are mixed messages about whether it is just for customs and MSAs, or if it's for the user also? I've seen an official document that states the case, but I can't remember which document it is. -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk Quid faciamus nisi sit? John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
[PSES] E-Labelling?
Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the world in general. I understand that the FCC has made some small movements in acceptance of e-labeling and Japan has some situation where e-labeling is ok, but solicit information on other markets' approaches. Thanks, Mike Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
Do you mean the e-mark or the E-mark? ___ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering Phone: +1-604-422-2622 | Address: 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby, BC, V5G4M1 e-mail: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com | Site:Site: www.SEsolar.com From: Mike Violette mi...@acbcert.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 08/01/2014 04:33 AM Subject: [PSES] E-Labelling? Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the world in general. I understand that the FCC has made some small movements in acceptance of e-labeling and Japan has some situation where e-labeling is ok, but solicit information on other markets' approaches. Thanks, Mike Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. __ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, McDiarmid, Ralph ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com wrote: Do you mean the e-mark or the E-mark? ___ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering Phone: +1-604-422-2622 | Address: 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby, BC, V5G4M1 e-mail: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com | Site:Site: www.SEsolar.com From: Mike Violette mi...@acbcert.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 08/01/2014 04:33 AM Subject: [PSES] E-Labelling? Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the world in general. I understand that the FCC has made some small movements in acceptance of e-labeling and Japan has some situation where e-labeling is ok, but solicit information on other markets' approaches. Thanks, Mike Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. __ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] E-Labelling?
Mike, Canada allows electronic labeling for ICES-3 only. Not allowed for RSS-GEN/RSS-210. Michael Sundstrom Garmin Compliance Engineer 2-2606 (913) 440-1540 Whatever your discipline, become a student of excellence in all things. Take every opportunity to observe people who manifest the qualities of mastery. These models of excellence will inspire you and guide you toward the fulfillment of your highest potential. -- Tony Buzan and Michael Gelb, authors From: Mike Violette [mailto:mi...@acbcert.com] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2014 1:42 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] E-Labelling? Thanks Ralph Sorry for the abbreviation. Better : electronic labeling. Mike Violette Washington Labs American Certification Body +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 1, 2014, at 2:00 PM, McDiarmid, Ralph ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.commailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com wrote: Do you mean the e-mark or the E-mark? ___ Ralph McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering Phone: +1-604-422-2622 | Address: 3700 Gilmore Way, Burnaby, BC, V5G4M1 e-mail: ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.commailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com | Site:Site: www.SEsolar.comhttp://www.sesolar.com/ From: Mike Violette mi...@acbcert.commailto:mi...@acbcert.com To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 08/01/2014 04:33 AM Subject: [PSES] E-Labelling? Hi Experts, I am looking for some guidance on E-labeling in the EU in particular and the world in general. I understand that the FCC has made some small movements in acceptance of e-labeling and Japan has some situation where e-labeling is ok, but solicit information on other markets' approaches. Thanks, Mike Mike Violette Washington Laboratories American Certification Body mi...@wll.commailto:mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com __ This email has been scanned by the Symantec Email Security.cloud service. __ - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe)http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas emcp...@radiusnorth.netmailto:emcp...@radiusnorth.net Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.orgmailto:mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher j.bac...@ieee.orgmailto:j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald dhe...@gmail.commailto:dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.orgmailto:emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe
