05, 2016 3:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
The problem with focusing on the code is that real world experience is that a
high percentage of the failures which occur with software related safety are a
failure of the o
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Subject: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
Dear Colleagues,
I would like to kindly ask those who have an extensive experience
regarding the above subject, to share their opinion about the following
aspect:
Having a circuit which is charging a battery
2016 11:03
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
The problem with focusing on the code is that real world experience is that a
high percentage of the failures which occur with software related safety are a
failure of the original specification
? Once you get past Ada (or any other language) compile-time
>> protection, you return to the electronic jungle where you are part of the
>> food chain.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>>
>> From: B Rowland [mailto:bfr...@direct.ca]
>> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 1
10:54 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG<mailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG>
Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
My experience with UL Medical (as an example) is that their position is that
software fails 100% of the time from a safety point of view (and I agree wi
ou are part of the food chain.
>
> Brian
>
>
> From: B Rowland [mailto:bfr...@direct.ca]
> Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:33 AM
> To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
> Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
>
> Hi List-colleagues;
>
&
other language) compile-time protection,
you return to the electronic jungle where you are part of the food chain.
Brian
From: B Rowland [mailto:bfr...@direct.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 11:33 AM
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on the seatback entertainment
monitor while flying on the 777 et. al.
-Dave
From: B Rowland [mailto:bfr...@direct.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 2:33 PM
To: Nyffenegger, Dave
Cc: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
Hi List-colleagues;
I think
s much
> as possible so you can skip the significant engineering investment required
> to do it properly.
>
> -Dave
>
> From: Carl Newton [mailto:emcl...@gmail.com]
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Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2016 10:54 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
My experience with UL Medical (as an example) is that their position is that
software fails 100% of the time from a safety point of view (and I agree
> my 'tactic' has been to
> prove that the code is NOT a safety-critical
component
Amen!
Rich
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My experience with UL Medical (as an example) is that their position is
that software fails 100% of the time from a safety point of view (and I
agree with that view). The manufacturer would have to prove to the lab
that it is fail-safe, which is probably not a desirable task on the part
of
I guess you would get a similar answer from Volkswagen these days. :-)
Michael.
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From: Brian O'Connell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com]
Sent: 03 August 2016 18:10
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Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
Dear
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Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
Would suspect principle reason is that FPGAs and ASICS, when viewed as a 'code
block', tend to be deterministic and relatively easy to map a finite
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Subject: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by ....SOFTWARE
Dear Colleagues,
I would like to kindly ask those who have an extensive experience regarding the
above subject, to share their opinion about the following aspect:
Having a circuit which is charging
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Cc: Gary McInturff
Subject: RE: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by ....SOFTWARE
Well software types are devious by nature and probably one of the reasons the
FAA kinda-sorta strong arms developers in to using ASICS, PALS and EPROMS and
the like. The theory is that th
;
> From: Bolintineanu, Constantin [mailto:cbolintine...@tycoint.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 7:33 AM
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> Subject: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
>
>
> Dear Colleagues,
>
> I would like to kindly as
, 2016 10:10 AM
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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
Dear Hardware People on the third rock from Sol,
Software beings (self included) are idiotically clever and tend to be rather
subversive. We can devise profoundly evil schemes
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Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 9:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
I have virtually no experience in software safety. I'm a hardware guy.
I suggest simulating failures in the sensors (hardware
: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: August-03-16 12:41 PM
To: Bolintineanu, Constantin; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: RE: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
I have virtually no experience in software safety. I'm a hardware guy.
I suggest simulating failures
UL 1998 comes to mind for starters.
-Dave
From: Richard Nute [mailto:ri...@ieee.org]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2016 12:41 PM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] SAFETTY FEATURES controlled by SOFTWARE
I have virtually no experience in software safety. I'm a hardware guy
FEATURES controlled by
SOFTWARE
Dear Colleagues,
I would like to kindly ask those who have an
extensive experience regarding the above subject,
to share their opinion about the following aspect:
Having a circuit which is charging a battery, and
having it controlled and protected
Dear Colleagues,
I would like to kindly ask those who have an extensive experience regarding the
above subject, to share their opinion about the following aspect:
Having a circuit which is charging a battery, and having it controlled and
protected by SOFTWARE ONLY from the point of view of
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