Re: Flame rating

2002-02-22 Thread T.Sato
On Thu, 21 Feb 2002 14:03:59 +0100, Pierre SELVA \(eLABs\) e.l...@wanadoo.fr wrote: Can somebody remember me this classification using 5VA, 5VB, ... ? and what are the equivalence (if any) with the classification defined by UL94 ? I know the classification HB, V2, V1, V0, 5V, but I cannot

Flame rating

2002-02-21 Thread Pierre SELVA (eLABs)
Dear all, In UL6500, table 14, it's stated the flammability category could be 5VA for some materials. Can somebody remember me this classification using 5VA, 5VB, ... ? and what are the equivalence (if any) with the classification defined by UL94 ? I know the classification HB, V2, V1, V0, 5V,

Re: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-23 Thread John Woodgate
while exploring. Tania Grant, tgr...@lucent.com Lucent Technologies, Switching Solutions Group Intelligent Network and Messaging Solutions -Original Message- From: Terry Meck [mailto:tjm...@accusort.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:44 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: FLAME RATING

RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-23 Thread Grant, Tania (Tania)
and Messaging Solutions -Original Message- From: Terry Meck [mailto:tjm...@accusort.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 7:44 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Hi group! I need a sanity check on a `new approach' our safety agency has recently taken. We have

Re: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS thanks!

2001-02-21 Thread Terry Meck
impossible. Those of us who are manufacturers always object to anything found by a certifier that causes us to change the product. In this case, the certification house has taken a position that the stand-off must be V-2. Establishing traceability of flame-rating of a stand-off may be quite

RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Massey, Doug C.
for verification, you'll have better luck getting the call on your side. Doug Massey LXE, Inc. -Original Message- From: wo...@sensormatic.com [mailto:wo...@sensormatic.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 12:48 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Rich said

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2001-02-20 Thread Matsuda, Ken
[mailto:tjm...@accusort.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:14 AM To: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com; ri...@sdd.hp.com; kandr...@tracewell.com Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Kurt: I knew in my frustration I forgot something and this is it. other small parts

Re: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Rich Nute
, the certification house has taken a position that the stand-off must be V-2. Establishing traceability of flame-rating of a stand-off may be quite difficult or impossible. So, we seek a way out. Most often, we either attack the certification house or we seek a favorable re-intepretation. Attacking

RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Terry Meck
...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:45 AM To: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com Cc: tjm...@accusort.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:Re: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Hi Kazimier and Terry: Kazimier suggests asking

RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Andrews, Kurt
: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 11:45 AM To: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com Cc: tjm...@accusort.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject:Re: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Hi Kazimier and Terry: Kazimier suggests asking the question: what's

RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread WOODS
To: kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com Cc: tjm...@accusort.com; emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Hi Kazimier and Terry: Kazimier suggests asking the question: what's the safety concern Unfortunately, safety certification houses do not have the option of accepting products

RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Crabb, John
2001 15:44 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Hi group! I need a sanity check on a `new approach' our safety agency has recently taken. We have an open frame power supply ( has all the certs through the CB report etc. for EN 60950 UL 1950 ) On of the conditions

RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
: Re: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Hi Kazimier and Terry: Kazimier suggests asking the question: what's the safety concern Unfortunately, safety certification houses do not have the option of accepting products based on the answer to this question. A safety certification house certifies

Re: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Rich Nute
, February 20, 2001 9:44 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Hi group! I need a sanity check on a `new approach' our safety agency has recently taken. We have an open frame power supply ( has all the certs through the CB report etc. for EN

RE: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Kazimier_Gawrzyjal
opinion only and not that of my employer. Good Luck. Regards, Kaz Gawrzyjal kazimier_gawrzy...@dell.com -Original Message- From: Terry Meck [mailto:tjm...@accusort.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 9:44 AM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS Hi group! I need

FLAME RATING OF STANDOFFS

2001-02-20 Thread Terry Meck
this supply in no less then 4 listed products without any reference to the flame rating of the standoff having to be checked when the inspector comes in. I consider that to be reasonable. section 4.4.3.3 UL 1950 has exception: gears, cams, belts, bearings and other small parts which would

Filter Foam Flame rating

1999-08-30 Thread Terry Meck
Hello all: I n my checking a filter material spec our, `less then knowledgeable' contact, supplier referred to a Flammability rating of `Class 2 28H2'. Does anyone know what this spec may be. Obviously I am also `less then knowledgeable' on this subject. What I needed was a reference to