RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-20 Thread Gary McInturff
..@corp.auspex.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 2:51 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:Re: Product Safety Semantics John I can only try to relate safety with the extensive use of "shall" with ISO certification having gon

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-20 Thread Scott Douglas
...@canoga.com [SMTP:vgorodet...@canoga.com] Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 3:28 PM To: jjuh...@fiberoptions.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:RE: Product Safety Semantics I can't help making this innocuous comment. (English is not my major.) All I have to say is that Euro

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-20 Thread Lou Gnecco
sage- >> From:John Juhasz [SMTP:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com] >> Sent:Monday, July 19, 1999 7:18 AM >> To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org >> Subject: RE: Product Safety Semantics >> >> Many thanks to those who responded to my query about the use

Re: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-19 Thread Douglas McKean
John, I can only try to relate safety with the extensive use of "shall" with ISO certification having gone through the lead auditor course nightmare. For ISO 9001, there's about 136 "shalls" listed. Get all your "shalls" right and you *will get* the certification. Miss a "shall" and you

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-19 Thread Gorodetsky, Vitaly
gt; From: John Juhasz [SMTP:jjuh...@fiberoptions.com] > Sent: Monday, July 19, 1999 7:18 AM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: RE: Product Safety Semantics > > Many thanks to those who responded to my query about the use/meanings of > the words 'shall' and &#

RE: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-19 Thread John Juhasz
Many thanks to those who responded to my query about the use/meanings of the words 'shall' and 'must' in product safety standards. Must and shall appear to be interchangeable. UL1950 uses both (couldn't make up there minds?), but 'must' appears a lot in the Annexes. EN60950 (IEC950) uses 'shall'

Re: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-19 Thread Paul McCoy
John, For the international and European standards the two terms of concern are "shall" and "should". If a requirement is specified with "shall" it is mandatory and the wrath of God or his lawyers will be visited upon you for ignoring it. If the requirement is specified with "should" it is a re

Re: Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-16 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: > The subject here is regarding the words 'shall' vs. 'must' in various of > product safety standards (including UL 1950 3rd Ed. and EN60950). > > Does anyone have any insight into the definitions of these as applicable to > product safety? I have heard there are difference

Product Safety Semantics

1999-07-16 Thread John Juhasz
Hi group. The subject here is regarding the words 'shall' vs. 'must' in various of product safety standards (including UL 1950 3rd Ed. and EN60950). Does anyone have any insight into the definitions of these as applicable to product safety? I have heard there are differences, but no one can seem