Derek Walton wrote:
Gary,
as a European school kid, we had it driven into us that:
K is for the binary world, i.e. 1K=1024
k is the metric symbol for 1000
The trouble comes in when folks get sloppy and substitute willy nilly. Perhaps
we should measure current in volts...;-)))
: Re: Y3K
Roger,
Most of this problem occurs from the Latin M= 1000
and the Greek K=1000 What came later just confused the issue- is this an
example of a decision
by committee(s) ?
Ralph Cameron
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: Tuesday, January 11, 2000 5:38 AM
Subject: RE: Y3K
Thanks to all who made their comments following my complaint about the
misuse of
K for 1000. Maybe a final word about this problem!
The IEC (even more pedantic!) are attempting to fix this by creating a new
set
of units for binary multiples
of prefixes
!
Roger
Gary McInturff gmcintu...@telect.com on 06/01/2000 22:49:38
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Subject: RE: Y3K
Oh my last birthday my
I wrote:
But I'm going to bite (though I'll regret it later no doubt) - what's
CPS?
Yes, I regret asking... funny how some things are just too
obvious? Especially as most of my test equipment is marked in
Mc/s.
Regards,
Mark
PS has anyone got an Excel spread sheet they can send me to
Hi Wolf,
Yes, 53kbps does seem to ring the bell. With my POP located a mile from
the CO, the connection speed rarely exceeds 49kbps using an USR 56K
Sportster modem. My other Lucent 56K Winmodem usually achieves a 37kbps
connection speed from the same POP. Thanks for the confirmation.
Regards,
Anil Allamaneni wrote:
I might have faux-pased (nice way of saying, screwed up). Apologies!
Hi Anil,
No harm done.
There is a modem speed test at
http://www.computingcentral.com/topics/bandwidth/ .
Click on Bandwidth Speed Test and try it out.
--
I might have faux-pased (nice way of saying, screwed up). Apologies!
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Of Dan Kwok
Sent: Friday, January 07, 2000 8:03 PM
To: Anil Allamaneni; EMC-TSTC Group
Subject: Re: Y3K
Anil Allamaneni
At 12:58 AM 08/01/2000 , you wrote:
I saw a CPS to Hz conversion chart in a military (AF) test report back in
the 70s.
The 'X' axis (CPS) was decimal and the 'Y' axis (Hz) was Log.
It provided an interesting conversion curve. It even had a formula to do
the conversion long hand.
We need
Anil Allamaneni wrote:
I dont think this is right. There are times when my modem says data is being
transferred at 10k/s. So does that mean actual throughput is 10x8 = 80kbps
from a 56kbps modem ?? Data transfer over an analog line would essentially
depend on your line and the distance from
Hans and Dan:
You're overlooking the fact that by definition in modern computers a byte =
8 bits so when they say 100Mb drive they mean exactly that, 100 megabytes =
800 megabits capacity. ( if you ignore the parity bit which is seldom
transmitted or recorded.). .
A 56K modem downloads files
I dont think this is right. There are times when my modem says data is being
transferred at 10k/s. So does that mean actual throughput is 10x8 = 80kbps
from a 56kbps modem ?? Data transfer over an analog line would essentially
depend on your line and the distance from CO (besides your system).
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Subject: Re: Y3K
Anyway, in waxing nostalgic, I wonder how many of us recall the CPS
unit. :-)
Best regards,
Ron Pickard
rpick...@hypercom.com
When I
Hello everyone;
Of the more recent units that have been a major source of confusion for
many Internet users, myself included, were the units for download
speeds: K/sec versus kbps.
It made a lot of users wonder why their 56K modem only downloaded files
at 5K/sec instead of say- 40 kbps. It
Cycles per second
Ghery Pettit
Intel
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From: m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk [mailto:m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk]
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Anyway, in waxing nostalgic, I wonder how many of us recall the CPS
unit
Recall it? I still use it !
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m...@cjbdev.demon.co.uk (Mark) on 01/07/2000 07:00:20 AM
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Anyway
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Subject: RE: Y3K
I saw a CPS to Hz conversion chart in a military (AF) test report back in
the
70s.
The 'X' axis (CPS) was decimal and the 'Y' axis (Hz) was Log.
It provided an interesting conversion curve. It even had a formula to do
Not so strange these circuits from 1926- figs 34 and 34 are examples.
Parallel , Yes.
Ralph
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Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 12:17 PM
Subject: Re: Y3K
Roger, way back in the days of the caveman
I forgot everybody...
you don't know what CPS is ??? that Hertz...
Bill Owsley, EMC Engineer
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speaking of garbled use of units, How many buy
hardrives in bits? everyone I hear says bytes as in
a 10 megabyte HD. They even abbreviate is as 10 MB
when it should be called a 10 Megabit drive (10 Mb)
with little b as big B is for Byte.
=
Best Regards
Hans Mellberg
EMC Consultant
Our magazine's standard is k for both 1000 and for 1024. So,
1024 bytes appears as 1 kbyte (we always spell out byte. I
suppose we'd use k for Boltzmann's constant. Upper case K is for
Kelvin. We use M for mega (1 million) and m for milli (1/1000).
We also use M for the binary, as in 1 Mbytes.
=;
james_allan%milgo@interlock.lexmark.com on 01/07/2000 09:43:34 AM
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Subject: RE: Y3K
Seems
From a previous life where we tried to build computer boxes using plastic,
it was;
CPS = Cheap Plastic S... sometimes referred to as case hardened latex.
Bill Owsley, EMC Engineer
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milli.
The 1998 EMC Encyclopedia shows M = mega and m = milli.
Mike Hopkins
KeyTek
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Subject: RE: Y3K
Oh my last birthday my
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From: Egon H. Varju [mailto:e...@varju.bc.ca]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:17 AM
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Subject:Re: Y3K
Roger, way back in the days of the caveman, 1M ohms = 1000
ohms. Guess
going
Anyway, in waxing nostalgic, I wonder how many of us recall the CPS
unit. :-)
Best regards,
Ron Pickard
rpick...@hypercom.com
When I was at school, we used fps Imperial units. Then
everything changed and we used cgs (centimetre, gram, second).
Then we changed again, to mks (metre,
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From: Egon H. Varju [mailto:e...@varju.bc.ca]
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2000 9:17 AM
To: EMC-PSTC
Subject:Re: Y3K
Roger, way back in the days of the caveman, 1M ohms = 1000
ohms. Guess
going
Roger, way back in the days of the caveman, 1M ohms = 1000 ohms. Guess
going metric changed everything.
Strange ... During my dinosaur hunting days, 1M ohm used to be = 1 000 000
ohms. Maybe we grew up in parallel universes ...
Egon :-)
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Subject: RE: Y3K
Personally I'm still waiting for another 48 years until the Y2K bug bites!
Aside from its real meaning as degrees Kelvin, capital K was first used by
the
computer guys as a de-facto agreed unit for binary thousand (1024) as in
Kbytes.
Sloppiness by the financial community led
Personally I'm still waiting for another 48 years until the Y2K bug bites!
Aside from its real meaning as degrees Kelvin, capital K was first used by the
computer guys as a de-facto agreed unit for binary thousand (1024) as in Kbytes.
Sloppiness by the financial community led to its use there
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Subject: Re: Y3K
Robert,
Could you please tell us what the contents of Y3k.doc as it cannot be
opened by Word 97.
Thanks,
Raymond Li
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Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2000 1:32 AM
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Subject: Re: Y3K
Robert,
Could you please tell us what the contents of Y3k.doc as it cannot be
opened by Word 97.
Thanks,
Raymond Li
Robert,
Could you please tell us what the contents of Y3k.doc as it cannot be
opened by Word 97.
Thanks,
Raymond Li
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