Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-07-01 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200307011612.jaa01...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'The transformer screen/shield conundrum' on Tue, 1 Jul 2003: >So, you can't really consider North American 240 V >mains circuits in this discussion. We don't. > &g

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-07-01 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: > >If the breakers are 230 V/16 A and 120 V/15 A, then > >the power distributed at 230 V is roughly twice that > >at 120 V. > > But your '120 V' is also '240 V' for some equipment. Besides, I think I > was being 'generous'; electrical energy consumption per head in USA i

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-07-01 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200306302129.oaa24...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'The transformer screen/shield conundrum' on Mon, 30 Jun 2003: >I disagree that the same power is distributed at >230 V and 120 V. We have a certain amount of misunderstandi

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-30 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John: > >For 3% voltage drop at maximum rated load, the > >source resistance is about 0.2 ohm. So the > >maximum rms current would be system nominal > >voltage divided by 0.2 ohm, or 600 amps for 120 > >V and 1150 amps for 230 V. > > For 230V, there are two modificatio

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-30 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200306301811.laa23...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'The transformer screen/shield conundrum' on Mon, 30 Jun 2003: >For 3% voltage drop at maximum rated load, the >source resistance is about 0.2 ohm. So the >maximum rm

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-30 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Richard and John: > >[R_Hughes >] I know it as prospective short-circuit current, but maybe I go > >boldly whereas you boldly go? > > Do we know what the current values are in various countries, for > equipment connected to wall-sockets? Assuming that the mains lead has > the r

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-29 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that richhug...@aol.com wrote (in <6C87B93E.0C9D7087 .0ba45...@aol.com>) about 'The transformer screen/shield conundrum' on Sat, 28 Jun 2003: >[R_Hughes >] I know it as prospective short-circuit current, but maybe I go >boldly whereas you boldly

re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-29 Thread richhug...@aol.com
Rich, RN> I'm surprised that, today, a SMPS would used screen/ shield construction. [R_Hughes >] Not all power supplies are switch mode, even today. I bet that the HiFi addicts who say that they can hear the difference between a valve amp and a transistor amp would absolutely hate the idea o

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200306271743.kaa29...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'The transformer screen/shield conundrum' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: >The screen/shield must be capable of carrying >the full fault current and is often tested >using the 25-amp t

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that Rich Nute wrote (in <200306271956.maa00...@epgc264.sdd.hp.com>) about 'The transformer screen/shield conundrum' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: >I would agree that this current, at a very small >contact area, is the driver for the hole in the >screen

Re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Richard: > You mention a few times the 25 Amp test. The designs I have seen that try > and use this approach (and I don't ever recall seeing a design I was happy > with) were all switch mode power supplies where there was an input fuse of > about 2A, meaning that the test would be

re: The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-28 Thread richhug...@aol.com
bject: The transformer screen/shield conundrum Hi John and Richard: The transformer screen/shield between primary and secondary windings is intended to carry the fault current in the event of a failure of basic insulation between the primary and the screen/shield. The screen/shield must be

The transformer screen/shield conundrum

2003-06-27 Thread Rich Nute
Hi John and Richard: The transformer screen/shield between primary and secondary windings is intended to carry the fault current in the event of a failure of basic insulation between the primary and the screen/shield. The screen/shield must be capable of carrying the full fault current and