Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Woodgate
In message 000c01d0de82$1350c6c0$39f25440$@cs.com, dated Mon, 24 Aug 
2015, Pete Perkins peperkin...@cs.com writes:


But I do get to describe my own reaction to electric shock (bus not as 
satisfying for the audience).


You could show a video, with sound effects. (;-)
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Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread Kevin Robinson
About 10-15 years ago, there was an advertising video for a Bapco Safety 
Analyzer that was making the rounds. As I recall the President of the company 
said he had all of his sales engineers experience what high leakage current 
felt like by having them hold on to the bare conductors of a circuit he 
designed and he walked through sensing the current, experiencing pain, and let 
go current. 

I would love to see that video again. 

Kevin Robinson

 On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Pete Perkins 
 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org wrote:
 
 John, et al,
 
Well, no demonstration... Looked into it several years ago and the
 IEEE didn't want to cover the liability for such.  Too, bad, I've always
 felt that EE product folks should always know what allowable electric shock
 feels like.  But I do get to describe my own reaction to electric shock (bus
 not as satisfying for the audience).  
 
 :) br, Pete
 
 Peter E Perkins, PE
 Principal Product Safety Engineer
 PO Box 23427
 Tigard, ORe  97281-3427
 
 503/452-1201 fone/fax
 p.perk...@ieee.org
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] 
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 11:14 PM
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 Subject: Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track
 
 In message 001801d0de2a$ab67e590$0237b0b0$@cs.com, dated Sun, 23 Aug 2015,
 Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes:
 
I did the Electric Shock for Dummies pitch last year and had a great 
 group attending.  I?m willing to do it again this year, building on 
 last years session with some improvements.
 
 With demonstrations? (;-)
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 turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M
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Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

2015-08-24 Thread John Allen
Thanks Pete, that'd be great, even without the demonstration.  If anyone can 
find that video Kevin referred to, send it along.

The Call for Submissions is here - 
http://2016.psessymposium.org/sites/2016.psessymposium.org/files/call-for-papers/ISPCE_2016_CFP_v10-web.pdf

The first deadline is December 6, 2015.

Best Regards,

John

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From: Kevin Robinson kevinrobinso...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:30 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

About 10-15 years ago, there was an advertising video for a Bapco Safety 
Analyzer that was making the rounds. As I recall the President of the company 
said he had all of his sales engineers experience what high leakage current 
felt like by having them hold on to the bare conductors of a circuit he 
designed and he walked through sensing the current, experiencing pain, and let 
go current.

I would love to see that video again.

Kevin Robinson

 On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Pete Perkins 
 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org wrote:

 John, et al,

Well, no demonstration... Looked into it several years ago and the
 IEEE didn't want to cover the liability for such.  Too, bad, I've always
 felt that EE product folks should always know what allowable electric shock
 feels like.  But I do get to describe my own reaction to electric shock (bus
 not as satisfying for the audience).

 :) br, Pete

 Peter E Perkins, PE
 Principal Product Safety Engineer
 PO Box 23427
 Tigard, ORe  97281-3427

 503/452-1201 fone/fax
 p.perk...@ieee.org


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 From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
 Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 11:14 PM
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 Subject: Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track

 In message 001801d0de2a$ab67e590$0237b0b0$@cs.com, dated Sun, 23 Aug 2015,
 Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes:

I did the Electric Shock for Dummies pitch last year and had a great
 group attending.  I?m willing to do it again this year, building on
 last years session with some improvements.

 With demonstrations? (;-)
 --
 OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I
 turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M
 Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK

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