Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track
In message 000c01d0de82$1350c6c0$39f25440$@cs.com, dated Mon, 24 Aug 2015, Pete Perkins peperkin...@cs.com writes: But I do get to describe my own reaction to electric shock (bus not as satisfying for the audience). You could show a video, with sound effects. (;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track
About 10-15 years ago, there was an advertising video for a Bapco Safety Analyzer that was making the rounds. As I recall the President of the company said he had all of his sales engineers experience what high leakage current felt like by having them hold on to the bare conductors of a circuit he designed and he walked through sensing the current, experiencing pain, and let go current. I would love to see that video again. Kevin Robinson On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org wrote: John, et al, Well, no demonstration... Looked into it several years ago and the IEEE didn't want to cover the liability for such. Too, bad, I've always felt that EE product folks should always know what allowable electric shock feels like. But I do get to describe my own reaction to electric shock (bus not as satisfying for the audience). :) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Engineer PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 fone/fax p.perk...@ieee.org -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 11:14 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track In message 001801d0de2a$ab67e590$0237b0b0$@cs.com, dated Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes: I did the Electric Shock for Dummies pitch last year and had a great group attending. I?m willing to do it again this year, building on last years session with some improvements. With demonstrations? (;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com
Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track
Thanks Pete, that'd be great, even without the demonstration. If anyone can find that video Kevin referred to, send it along. The Call for Submissions is here - http://2016.psessymposium.org/sites/2016.psessymposium.org/files/call-for-papers/ISPCE_2016_CFP_v10-web.pdf The first deadline is December 6, 2015. Best Regards, John John Allen President Product Safety Consulting, Inc. http://www.productsafetyinc.com 630-238-0188 Product Safety Consulting Product Safety Consulting provides product developers and manufacturers with expert advice and testing services, so they can secure product safety and Read more... From: Kevin Robinson kevinrobinso...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 11:30 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] FW: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track About 10-15 years ago, there was an advertising video for a Bapco Safety Analyzer that was making the rounds. As I recall the President of the company said he had all of his sales engineers experience what high leakage current felt like by having them hold on to the bare conductors of a circuit he designed and he walked through sensing the current, experiencing pain, and let go current. I would love to see that video again. Kevin Robinson On Aug 24, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org wrote: John, et al, Well, no demonstration... Looked into it several years ago and the IEEE didn't want to cover the liability for such. Too, bad, I've always felt that EE product folks should always know what allowable electric shock feels like. But I do get to describe my own reaction to electric shock (bus not as satisfying for the audience). :) br, Pete Peter E Perkins, PE Principal Product Safety Engineer PO Box 23427 Tigard, ORe 97281-3427 503/452-1201 fone/fax p.perk...@ieee.org -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2015 11:14 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] PSES Symposium 2016 - Compliance 101 Track In message 001801d0de2a$ab67e590$0237b0b0$@cs.com, dated Sun, 23 Aug 2015, Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org writes: I did the Electric Shock for Dummies pitch last year and had a great group attending. I?m willing to do it again this year, building on last years session with some improvements. With demonstrations? (;-) -- OOO - Own Opinions Only. With best wishes. See www.jmwa.demon.co.uk When I turn my back on the sun, it's to look for a rainbow John Woodgate, J M Woodgate and Associates, Rayleigh, Essex UK - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used for graphics (in well-used formats), large files, etc. Website: http://www.ieee-pses.org/ Instructions: http://www.ieee-pses.org/list.html (including how to unsubscribe) List rules: http://www.ieee-pses.org/listrules.html For help, send mail to the list administrators: Scott Douglas sdoug...@ieee.org Mike Cantwell mcantw...@ieee.org For policy questions, send mail to: Jim Bacher: j.bac...@ieee.org David Heald: dhe...@gmail.com - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to emc-p...@ieee.org All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at: http://www.ieee-pses.org/emc-pstc.html Attachments are not permitted but the IEEE PSES Online Communities site at http://product-compliance.oc.ieee.org/ can be used