RE: Hot Surface. Hot air.

1999-10-08 Thread Ing. Gert Gremmen
Of course a piece of metal is really hot at 70 degrees ! One should keep in mind that safety standards are related to safety, not to prevent discomfort. Even when falling onto it, one may rise (and shine) before a serious burn occurs. 70 degrees C (25+45) is a well established limit

Re: Hot Surface. Hot air.

1999-10-08 Thread Matthew Meehan
Now, 70 degrees C for external equipment surface that may be touched seems pretty high to me. 100 degrees C metal surface will, I believe, cause a burn to that part of the human body that touched it. So maybe my interpretation is not true ??and, can someone point another

Re: Hot Surface. Hot air.

1999-10-08 Thread Rich Nute
Hello Israel: Unfortunately, safety standards only address one of the critical parameters, temperature, when specifying requirements for protection against a burn injury. You are absolutely correct that a metal surface with a temperature exceeding 50 C is capable of producing a burn

RE: Hot Surface. Hot air.

1999-10-07 Thread Alan Brewster
Israel, There are only three temperatures to worry about: Hot, Damn Hot and Ouch. For something approaching a definition look in BS 4086 Recommendations for Maximum Surface Temperatures of Heated Domestic Equipment. The other excellent standard for defining the issue is EN 563:1994 Safety of

Re: Hot Surface. Hot air.

1999-10-07 Thread Patty Elliot
I have a copy of a standard EN 563:1994, Safety of machinery - Temperatures of touchable surfaces - Ergonomics data to establish temperature limit values for hot surfaces. It is only 18 pages but includes charts and graphs of burn threshold vs contact time for plastic, metal, and ceramic

RE: Hot Surface. Hot air.

1999-10-07 Thread Jim Eichner
One possible answer re the hot air issue: Whatever the surface is (metal grill, plastic vent slots, etc.) that the hot air is exiting the equipment from, will have to comply with the external temperature limits already cited. If the air itself is so hot that there is a burn hazard, those

Re: Hot Surface. Hot air.

1999-10-07 Thread Art Michael
Hello Israel, I've not checked your numbers but believe the rationale is, in the case of Item 1) below: that should one come into contact with a surface at these temperatures, one will withdraw quickly and no damage is anticipated. And, in the case of Item 2) below: should one come into contact