Re: [Emc-users] Is this list working?

2009-01-03 Thread Donnie Timmons
Richard It's a SM1 with the Hurco amps. - Original Message - From: Richard Arthur rich...@candrarthur.demon.co.uk To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2009 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Is this list working? Donnie,

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 January 2009, Dean Hedin wrote: Take this one for example: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/brushless-gazaur.htm The R/C motors are rated with Kv. Which means rpms per volt with no load. The above motor is rated at 4100kv and can go up to 12volts. So that

Re: [Emc-users] EMC1 ?

2009-01-03 Thread Chris Radek
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 02:55:15PM +, paul_c wrote: ftp://ftp.isd.mel.nist.gov/pub/emc/emcsoft ftp://ftp.isd.mel.nist.gov/pub/emc/rcslib Thanks for these links, it seems getting the source there is the best strategy. I was surprised that emcplot3d is in there, though. Here is some of the

[Emc-users] info on emcsvr

2009-01-03 Thread Richard F. Amaral
As I reviewed the EMC2 source I came across 'emcsrv'. I could not find the source code for this server, at least not with this name or any detailed information about what it does. Does any one know? -Rich --

Re: [Emc-users] web cam capture

2009-01-03 Thread John Kasunich
Len Shelton wrote: Anyone know of a simple command line web cam capture program? I am running EMC2 on my pick-n-place machine. I want to be able to pick up a part, then move it over an uplooking webcam, capture an image, then proceed with placing the part. I want to be able to study these

[Emc-users] EMC startup error

2009-01-03 Thread Donnie Timmons
I'm have some problem the first the first time I start EMC after power on I get error and EMC will not start but start it again and it runs. Attached is a copy of the terminal screen. The second problem I'm turning the motors by hand and the z axis position reading goes the wrong way. I have

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 January 2009, Jon Elson wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Saturday 03 January 2009, Dean Hedin wrote: Take this one for example: http://www.hobby-lobby.com/brushless-gazaur.htm The R/C motors are rated with Kv. Which means rpms per volt with no load. The above motor is rated at

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread tomp
Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: Lester Caine wrote: All this nostalgia set me thinking I had a silly text graphic based Dungeon and Dragon game on the VAX. It used to while away the lunch hour ;) anybody know if it's still available. I can't even remember the name now :( Either

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Kenneth Lerman
tomp wrote: ... Collosal Cave you are in a twisty little maze of passages :) all alike or all different? TomP -- ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] EMC startup error

2009-01-03 Thread Jeff Epler
On Sat, Jan 03, 2009 at 05:41:49PM -0500, Donnie Timmons wrote: I'm have some problem the first the first time I start EMC after power on I get error and EMC will not start but start it again and it runs. Attached is a copy of the terminal screen. Do you use hal_manualtoolchange in your

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Saturday 03 January 2009, Kent A. Reed wrote: Gentle persons: I love these stories! I'm sorry, Gene, that you had such a bad experience. I can only protest that a PDP11/23 wasn't a *real* PDP11. It came out nearly a decade after the 11/20, had an LSI-based CPU instead of a boatload of

Re: [Emc-users] EMC startup error

2009-01-03 Thread Donnie Timmons
Jeff I could not find any hal_manualtoolchange. I suppect that something is not get loaded at the right time. Being new to EMC and Linux I have no ideal what. I have used encoder in the past and to change direction just swap A B so this has me stumped. Attached are all the files in the setup

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Ron Ginger
Ok, I cant let this one go without a comment. I joined DEC as a sales engineer in the Ann Arbor Michigan office in Feb 1969. That was still PDP8 days, the 11 didnt come until 1970. We had a series of application systems we sold on PDP8's, and as I recall one of them was for generating NC code

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
Gentle persons: I know I should poll CNCZONE instead, but this is a much more friendly crowd and the rate of useful information exchange is much higher. I recently got a Tower Hobbies catalog to look for an RC gift to my son and/or his son. I stumbled across the brushless motors section and

Re: [Emc-users] EMC startup error

2009-01-03 Thread Jeff Epler
It must be a different problem than the one I was guessing at .. if you get any errors at shutdown, those would be useful to see. So would the last 20 lines or so that are shown when you type 'dmesg' at the commandline. Jeff

Re: [Emc-users] web cam capture

2009-01-03 Thread Kent A. Reed
Len Shelton wrote: Anyone know of a simple command line web cam capture program? I am running EMC2 on my pick-n-place machine. I want to be able to pick up a part, then move it over an uplooking webcam, capture an image, then proceed with placing the part. I want to be able to study these

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Dean Hedin
Jon, that is overkill for PCB routing. I have a pcb routing spindle motor right here in front of me and it is not much more than a hobby dc motor. - Original Message - From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com Well, the ultimate motors for this are Westwind air bearing spindles or

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread tomp
Ken Kenneth Lerman wrote: tomp wrote: ... Collosal Cave you are in a twisty little maze of passages :) mine didnt say that it went you are in a twisty little maze of passages then you are in a maze of twisty little passages then you are in a twisty passage of little mazes then you were very

Re: [Emc-users] EMC startup error

2009-01-03 Thread Donnie Timmons
Peter I have TTL encoders so the /A and /B are not used or do I have connect them to ground? Is there any setting other than the jumps on the 7i33 to set for TTL Attached are the setup files Donnie - Original Message - From: Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com To: Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread tomp
Dave I agree Dave Engvall wrote: It is amazing how many DEC users, etc come crawling out of the woodwork. All of them with great stories about how things used to be. With all this architectural experience there ought to be some strongly held opinions on a processor chip that would do a

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread tomp
Dave Engvall wrote: It is amazing how many DEC users, etc come crawling out of the woodwork. All of them with great stories about how things used to be. With all this architectural experience there ought to be some strongly held opinions on a processor chip that would do a good job on

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Dave Engvall wrote: It is amazing how many DEC users, etc come crawling out of the woodwork. All of them with great stories about how things used to be. With all this architectural experience there ought to be some strongly held opinions on a processor chip that would do a good job on

[Emc-users] A wish - Closed Loop Steppers

2009-01-03 Thread Roger
It's unfortunate that there isn't a way to approximate closed loop control with steppers and encoders in EMC2. I have read that EMC2 can detect a following error using steppers with encoders and trigger a fault which is great but this doesn't really allow the use of steppers in larger or high

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Gene Heskett wrote: [snip] On the other hand you can do a lot with a embedded 32 bit processor in a FPGA (the ZPU for example uses about 20% of a 400K SP3, runs at ~ 100 MHz, is BSD licensed and has a GCC toolchain) Which again, sounds like a plus till you said 100mhz. That might do for

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote: Anyone really remember how many interrupts an 11 really had. I'm thinking 256 but haven't found the book to confirm that. I think it was actually unlimited, up to filling the entire address space. Now, off the shelf boards didn't support that, and some of the

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: Interesting. The length of the radial portion of the bearing must be fairly short then? The radial bearing sections are about 3/4 long, I think. These are combo hydrostatic/hydrodynamic bearings. I once had a hose blow off while drilling a hole, and waited until the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Ron Ginger wrote: Ok, I cant let this one go without a comment. I joined DEC as a sales engineer in the Ann Arbor Michigan office in Feb 1969. That was still PDP8 days, the 11 didnt come until 1970. We had a series of application systems we sold on PDP8's, and as I recall one of them was

Re: [Emc-users] A wish - Closed Loop Steppers

2009-01-03 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Roger wrote: Stephen Wille Padnos spad...@... writes: This is a function of the motor driver, not the control software. Steve, Your absolutely correct but I could imagine how software could be used to emulate closed loop control with a step direction drive. In the case of a lost step

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Dean Hedin wrote: Jon, that is overkill for PCB routing. I have a pcb routing spindle motor right here in front of me and it is not much more than a hobby dc motor. Well, it depends on what you are going to be doing. I have drilled .018 holes (.457 mm) with the Westwind, and I'm sure it

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Dave Engvall wrote: It is amazing how many DEC users, etc come crawling out of the woodwork. All of them with great stories about how things used to be. With all this architectural experience there ought to be some strongly held opinions on a processor chip that would do a good job on

Re: [Emc-users] PCB routing on a CNC mill

2009-01-03 Thread Jon Elson
Gene Heskett wrote: Something that wasn't actually because I was thinking of braced up dremels or Proxxon's. OTOH, I imagine the Rockwell/Precise offering is also outragiously priced, way out of my league, so that most certainly should have been taken as a jest. But at the time, I was

Re: [Emc-users] A wish - Closed Loop Steppers

2009-01-03 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 4 Jan 2009, Roger wrote: Date: Sun, 4 Jan 2009 06:17:04 + (UTC) From: Roger vrsculp...@hotmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] A wish - Closed Loop Steppers It's

Re: [Emc-users] OT: PDP11

2009-01-03 Thread Matt Shaver
On Sat, 2009-01-03 at 21:38 -0800, Rafael Skodlar wrote: No modern PC with water cooling, tons of LEDs, or shiny fans look as good as PDP-8 or PDP-11/44 front panels. You could tell what system was doing just by looking at LEDs. I know what you mean, I started my computer career in 1981

Re: [Emc-users] A wish - Closed Loop Steppers

2009-01-03 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 3 Jan 2009, Kirk Wallace wrote: SNIP__ With only step and direction signals on stepper driver inputs, EMC has no way of modifying the stepper driver behavior. The driver would need something like a step bias or correction input, which EMC