Re: [Emc-users] (RTAI?) error on initial attempt to tickle 5i20

2009-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 02:48:34PM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Peter is right. Also, there's this the dmesg you helpfully included: [ 1013.394259] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15 [ 1013.403985] hm2_pci: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 driver version 0.6 [ 1013.954991]

Re: [Emc-users] (RTAI?) error on initial attempt to tickle 5i20

2009-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 11:26:21PM +0300, acemi list wrote: To solve 'rtapi: no version for nano2count found' problem: * add the Module.symvers output of RTAI into the kernel's Module.symvers file * add a link to RTAI modules directory in kernel's module directory * depmod -a * compile EMC2

[Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Yann Jautard
Hi all, (sorry for my poor english, I'm from france) I'm doing a machine to apply glue for photovoltaics modules assembly. The goal is to apply a line of silicon glue around a metal frame, before assembly of the frame with the laminated photovoltaic module, and then to make a second pass

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread a
Hi I am interesting in your router. Did you build that router by yourself or retrofiring existing one. What king head A and B axis do you use. can you send me link from internet that describe your A and B axis? How big spindle motor do you use? Thanks aram I'm a new user when it comes to Linux

Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

2009-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 06:54:55PM -0700, Rondal Nannie wrote: I opened the ubuntu but couldnt locate the config files. I need alot of help. Have you tried to run this on the command line?: find ~ -name '*ini' -print # Search user's home directory. If

Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
Rondal, That machine ought to do the trick. I'd still run the latency-test though, http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Latency-Test, just to ensure there's nothing running in the BIOS or anywhere else that could foul things up. Mark At 09:54 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote: Mark

Re: [Emc-users] emc chess pawn part program

2009-09-04 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
;-) Thanks! I work with the Navy (ex-USAF fighter jock) taking care of some of the networks and big iron servers here at the Naval Research Lab in Washington DC. Mark At 10:02 PM 9/3/2009, you wrote: Mark I just noticed the NRL Navy at the end of you address. I served 10 years Navy as a

Re: [Emc-users] (RTAI?) error on initial attempt to tickle 5i20

2009-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 08:33:40AM -0700, Dave Engvall wrote: On Sep 3, 2009, at 4:05 AM, Erik Christiansen wrote: snip Hi Erik, I'm told the hal pin is a side effect of the following error. I googled nano2count and got hits but nothing that looked useful. Your search ability is probably

Re: [Emc-users] Using M64, M65 and M66

2009-09-04 Thread John Thornton
Thanks Eric, I see it now. John On 3 Sep 2009 at 20:18, Eric H. Johnson wrote: John, I believe this is the current user's manual: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/EMC2_User_Manual.pdf Page 120, at the top says: M62, M63 not implemented M62 and M63 are not currently implemented, but may be

Re: [Emc-users] (RTAI?) error on initial attempt to tickle 5i20

2009-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 02:48:34PM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Peter is right. Also, there's this the dmesg you helpfully included: [ 1013.394259] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15 [ 1013.403985] hm2_pci: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 driver version 0.6 [ 1013.954991]

Re: [Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Stuart Stevenson
the machine will move in a straight line between the coordinates on one line and the coordinates on the next line for example: if the program looks like this X0 Y0 Z0 X1 Y1 Z1 the machine will move from X0 Y0 Z0 to X1 Y1 Z1 in a straight line. all you need to do is collect the end

Re: [Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Ray Henry
Hello Yann Interesting project. I saw an early EMC powered pick-and-place machine in Belgium back in the 1990s. No reason that EMC2 can't handle the project easily. I believe that the Axis interface may be overkill. It would be a fairly easy write to create a frame in the Mini interface that

Re: [Emc-users] (RTAI?) error on initial attempt to tickle 5i20

2009-09-04 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Erik Christiansen wrote: On Thu, Sep 03, 2009 at 02:48:34PM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Peter is right. Also, there's this the dmesg you helpfully included: [ 1013.394259] hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15 [ 1013.403985] hm2_pci: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 driver

Re: [Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Eric H. Johnson
Yann, In addition to what Ray said, if you are up to writing a simple interface you can use emcrsh described here: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Emcrsh This is a simple telnet like text interface which can be used to query machine information and issue commands. It can be run

Re: [Emc-users] (RTAI?) error on initial attempt to tickle 5i20

2009-09-04 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
Erik Christiansen wrote: $ halrun halcmd: loadrt hostmot2 halcmd: loadrt hm2_pci config=/lib/firmware/hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT \ num_encoders=3 num_pwmgens=3 num_stepgens=0 $ lsmod Module Size Used by hm2_pci9116 0 hostmot2 56320 1 hm2_pci hal_lib 36248

Re: [Emc-users] (RTAI?) error on initial attempt to tickle 5i20

2009-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 08:34:50AM -0400, Stephen Wille Padnos wrote: The hm2_pci loadrt line should be: loadrt hm2_pci config=firmware=hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT num_encoders=3 num_pwmgens=3 num_stepgens=0 Aaaah, you've fixed it! :-)) The little red LEDs go out, and loadusr halmeter shows a list

Re: [Emc-users] (RTAI?) error on initial attempt to tickle 5i20

2009-09-04 Thread Erik Christiansen
On Fri, Sep 04, 2009 at 07:44:05AM -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: Erik Christiansen wrote: $ halrun halcmd: loadrt hostmot2 halcmd: loadrt hm2_pci config=/lib/firmware/hm2/5i20/SVST8_4.BIT \ num_encoders=3 num_pwmgens=3 num_stepgens=0 $ lsmod Module Size Used by

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread H J Johnson
Hey there Aram, I built my own router. I work as an industrial designer build heavy equipment for steel mills and the like. Designing and building my own machine was a natural fit. My router is 20 x 10 [ft] and has ~30 of Z travel [which will soon be more like 50] I've not yet built the B/C axis

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread H J Johnson
Steven, thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm by no means a programer nor do I expect that I'd get proficient at it in the time frame needed [or to the level that would be required]. I'm more interested in being able to 'look up' stuff and learn to read code a little.. to understand what is be

Re: [Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Claude Froidevaux
Le 04.09.2009 10:43, Yann Jautard a écrit : Hi all, (sorry for my poor english, I'm from france) I'm doing a machine to apply glue for photovoltaics modules assembly. The goal is to apply a line of silicon glue around a metal frame, before assembly of the frame with the laminated

[Emc-users] What hardware should buy to start

2009-09-04 Thread Youda He
Hi, I am new to the list, would like to see what is needed to build a CNC machine. We have bought a 3 axis platform, with steppers, can replace them to servo with encoder id needed. We have some experience with micro controllers, and likely to use some PIC based controller, in these case

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread H J Johnson
Thanks Steve, this was infact my plan. I've got a bunch of G202's and steppers sitting around. It would be fairly simple to load it up and start playing and get my feet wet that way.. we'll see how things progress from there. I'm several months away from any major changes on my machine..just

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
H J Johnson wrote: Steven, thanks for taking the time to reply. I'm by no means a programer nor do I expect that I'd get proficient at it in the time frame needed [or to the level that would be required]. I'm more interested in being able to 'look up' stuff and learn to read code a little.. to

Re: [Emc-users] What hardware should buy to start

2009-09-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Youda He wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:26:19 -0700 From: Youda He yo...@geometrysystems.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] What

Re: [Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Letters in gcode are not case sensitive. When the standard was written, lower case letters had not yet been invented. :-) Ken Youda He wrote: I have hear but never really edit gcode, I noticed there are capital case and lower case letters, are they case sensitive? -- Youda On Fri, Sep

Re: [Emc-users] What hardware should buy to start

2009-09-04 Thread Youda He
Thanks, do we need to consider what CPU performance level is needed, P4, Core2, GHz? memory size? -- Youda On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Youda He wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 10:26:19 -0700 From: Youda He

Re: [Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Youda He
I have hear but never really edit gcode, I noticed there are capital case and lower case letters, are they case sensitive? -- Youda On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Claude Froidevaux men...@bluewin.chwrote: Le 04.09.2009 10:43, Yann Jautard a écrit : Hi all, (sorry for my poor english,

Re: [Emc-users] What hardware should buy to start

2009-09-04 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 4 Sep 2009, Youda He wrote: Date: Fri, 4 Sep 2009 11:42:21 -0700 From: Youda He yo...@geometrysystems.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] What hardware should buy to start

2009-09-04 Thread Youda He
Thanks, it seems most computer works, especially the Intel Atom worked well. Do we have drawings to connect parallel port to step driver? We have some Allegro chip that takes pulse, direction and will do the rest of driving. -- Youda On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:21 PM, Peter C. Wallace

Re: [Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Ray Henry
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 11:45 -0700, Youda He wrote: I have hear but never really edit gcode, I noticed there are capital case and lower case letters, are they case sensitive? -- Youda No -- Let Crystal Reports

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Stuart Stevenson
J. Johnson If the rack drive has no backlash and is strong enough to handle the cutting forces there is no reason to go to a ball screw. The bidirectional lead screw compensation works very well. Stuart On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 12:46 PM, H J Johnson hjjohn...@sasktel.netwrote: Thanks

Re: [Emc-users] How to learn movements with EMC

2009-09-04 Thread Matthew Ireland
As the moves I need to do are very simples, (just drawing a square with the glue, in fact), I think learning moves like this will be far more easy than creating Gcode. Dude, as a person who spent years writing gcode in a text editor, all I can say is your program will be literally four g1

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Karl Schmidt
You might want to see: http://wiki.debian.org/ Some keys to getting hardware info: http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Hardware-info_bios While this information is for Debian - Ubuntu is a kludged up version of Debian anyway.

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread H J Johnson
The Backlash is very small on the R/P [I can't measure it] but it does wear out over time [I'm on my second set of rack and third set of pinions] I've decided that it would be a better system if I moved to the ballscrew or a super hard helical R/P. The ballscrew came out cheaper so.. that's

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread H J Johnson
Thanks!! Looks like I've got more reading to do! :) J. Johnson You might want to see: http://wiki.debian.org/ Some keys to getting hardware info: http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/Hardware-info_bios While this information is for Debian - Ubuntu is a kludged up version of Debian

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Douglas Pollard
H J Johnson wrote: The Backlash is very small on the R/P [I can't measure it] but it does wear out over time [I'm on my second set of rack and third set of pinions] I've decided that it would be a better system if I moved to the ballscrew or a super hard helical R/P. The ballscrew came

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread H J Johnson
My suggestion is to just replace the pinion as most of the wear is there. At some point it maybe necessary to replace the rack as well. Of course if the amount of engagement is adjustable there may well be a lot more service gotten out of the pinions as well.

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/9/5 H J Johnson hjjohn...@sasktel.net: It's not optimum but has worked thus far.. The ballscrew is a good upgrade for me.. can't wait to get it done :) A toothed belt drive might be much cheaper and good enough? -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] Sites to help understand Linux

2009-09-04 Thread Douglas Pollard
H J Johnson wrote: My suggestion is to just replace the pinion as most of the wear is there. At some point it maybe necessary to replace the rack as well. Of course if the amount of engagement is adjustable there may well be a lot more service gotten out of the pinions as

Re: [Emc-users] What hardware should buy to start

2009-09-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 04 September 2009, Youda He wrote: Thanks, it seems most computer works, especially the Intel Atom worked well. Do we have drawings to connect parallel port to step driver? We have some Allegro chip that takes pulse, direction and will do the rest of driving. That is available as a

Re: [Emc-users] What hardware should buy to start

2009-09-04 Thread Youda He
Thanks, that look good. Does the EMC2 tracking the actual position, assume sometimes the stepper lost a step or so, with parallel port communication, how does one feed the optical encode position info back to the computer? -- Youda On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:35 PM, Gene Heskett