Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:45:40 -0700 From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: LinuxCNC Users List emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] G540

Re: [Emc-users] Trans-Pacific sailboat race that Andy is involved in

2012-04-15 Thread Dave
On 4/15/2012 5:49 AM, andy pugh wrote: On 1 April 2012 16:24, gene heskettghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/01/us/pacific-yacht-rescue/index.html Not good. Disabled in seas like that, they'll either need a tug, or to abandon. 400 miles out is a long way for a

[Emc-users] BLDC on 7i43 + 7i39 + linear motors

2012-04-15 Thread Andrew
Hello, I got troubles setting up my machine. Three small HIWIN linear motors (no Hall sensors, just UVW inputs and temperature sensor output), linear encoders, 7i43 with 2x7i39, and I'd like to put it all together. I also have SVSTTP4_4_7i39 firmware. Andy Pugh answered my first questions

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Dave
On 4/15/2012 11:02 AM, Peter C. Wallace wrote: On Sat, 14 Apr 2012, Kirk Wallace wrote: Date: Sat, 14 Apr 2012 14:45:40 -0700 From: Kirk Wallacekwall...@wallacecompany.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: LinuxCNC Users

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC on 7i43 + 7i39 + linear motors

2012-04-15 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 15 Apr 2012, Andrew wrote: Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2012 18:15:25 +0300 From: Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] BLDC on

Re: [Emc-users] Looking to replace $4000 machine for $400 machine with same results in emc :) yes its a strange title...

2012-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 4 March 2012 23:49, Bart Libert (EducaSoft) educas...@gmail.com wrote: and doesn't it make a problem then that my pc has a maximum jitter of around 45000 ? My expensive one seems to be lucky as he stays very low in jitter, but the cheap ones I have go upto 45000 in jitter. You are making

Re: [Emc-users] Trans-Pacific sailboat race that Andy is involved in

2012-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2012 16:06, Dave e...@dc9.tzo.com wrote: Was your boat bashed around also from the same large waves or was that boat hit by a rogue wave? The other boats were further ahead and missed that particular weather system, though it was not a great deal more severe than what we had been

Re: [Emc-users] BLDC on 7i43 + 7i39 + linear motors

2012-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 15 April 2012 16:15, Andrew parallel.kinemat...@gmail.com wrote: But the question is when to enable 3pwmgen. Now I just set it always enabled. That is probably OK. That's what I have with this config. Encoders behave strange, only +-0.005mm change with any movement, like only A or B is

Re: [Emc-users] Trans-Pacific sailboat race that Andy is involved in

2012-04-15 Thread Dave
The second picture down on the first link: I would not consider that a wave... at least not regards to the Great Lakes waves we experience in the Midwest USA - I would consider that a mountain of water.. That is crazy big! I can't imagine that water mountain in the picture breaking over the

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-04-15 Thread andy pugh
On 9 March 2012 03:46, Scott Hasse scott.ha...@gmail.com wrote: My question is about this analog input. One way to do this that I keep meaning to experiment with is to use a PWM output to create a reference voltage, and a comparator to detect whether it is above or below the voltage to be

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-04-15 Thread Scott Hasse
Definitely an interesting idea. To answer Thomas' question from earlier, I was able to read a 500-1000 Hz range reliably enough to successfully control EDM plunge/retreat for successful EDM on our first try using the simple conditional gcode I referenced on the wiki page describing this. A lot

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-04-15 Thread Thomas Powderly
Scott, thats great! Your machine will have some response-ability meaning it just wont react to a sine above a certain frequency at some point the control signal is saying up/down so fast the machine tool is just quivering, not getting to the commanded position. this is often a basic evaluation

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, April 15, 2012 03:01:56 PM Scott Hasse did opine: Definitely an interesting idea. To answer Thomas' question from earlier, I was able to read a 500-1000 Hz range reliably enough to successfully control EDM plunge/retreat for successful EDM on our first try using the simple

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
andy pugh wrote: On 14 April 2012 22:45, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: A 660 Ohm resistor pulled the ramp up higher, but 5V / 660 Ohms = 7.5 mA and is starting to get into an amp range that could get interesting for pin 16. I thought that nearly all p-ports can

Re: [Emc-users] Voltage to frequency for analog input

2012-04-15 Thread Scott Hasse
I think there might be some confusion about what we are reading in via voltage to frequency using a software encoder velocity in this case. The analog value read as a frequency between 500 and 1000Hz is a scaled version of the voltage of the EDM process itself. Our relatively naive understanding

[Emc-users] Storebro260 update

2012-04-15 Thread Roger Holmquist
Just put a few measurements on spindle moter stator power circuitry on site: http://abcnc.se/projects/storebro260.html Done with a 100 MHz oscilloscope 1:10 probes, signal ground on chassis. / Roger -- For

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
I have some scope traces from LinuxCNC's pump below. I haven't had time to add text to the pictures yet but I'll try to describe them in this message for now. The group of pictures is here: http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/G540/ Motherboard port, set to SPP in BIOS:

Re: [Emc-users] Storebro260 update

2012-04-15 Thread Dave
Roger, You won't have any problem using that spindle drive with LinuxCNC. On the one drawing - top left corner there is pin 56 and 57. One is the reference and the other the analog speed input for the drive. I have a Simoreg drive on my lathe that is probably similar, but newer. Siemens

Re: [Emc-users] Storebro260 update

2012-04-15 Thread Dave
Is there a small keyboard on that Spindle drive with some led displays? Dave On 4/15/2012 6:10 PM, Roger Holmquist wrote: Just put a few measurements on spindle moter stator power circuitry on site: http://abcnc.se/projects/storebro260.html Done with a 100 MHz oscilloscope 1:10 probes,

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, April 15, 2012 09:24:08 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: I have some scope traces from LinuxCNC's pump below. I haven't had time to add text to the pictures yet but I'll try to describe them in this message for now. The group of pictures is here:

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Steve Stallings
Kirk, In every case except the motherboard you describe the waveform as being the same for SPP or EPP mode. This leads me to believe that none of the cards are actually going into EPP mode. What were you using to set the cards to EPP mode? Regards, Steve Stallings -Original Message-

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Steve Stallings
Kirk, Oops, I now realize that you did get different result for the Startech card in EPP mode. Did you have a utility from Startech to set that board to EPP mode, or did you use one of the utilities from Jon Elson or a similar routine? Steve Stallings -Original Message- From: Kirk

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 22:05 -0500, Steve Stallings wrote: Kirk, Oops, I now realize that you did get different result for the Startech card in EPP mode. Did you have a utility from Startech to set that board to EPP mode, or did you use one of the utilities from Jon Elson or a similar

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 21:37 -0400, gene heskett wrote: ... snip What happens if the pump frequency is reduced to say 10% of what its set at now? I haven't tried that. If I disconnect the G540 so there is no load on the parallel port pin, the charge pump is a clean square wave. I used 10x on

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: Looking at the scope traces, either the probe is way out of calibration against the scopes own test square wave, or the 540 has a low value series resistor, 33-120 ohm range, with several hundred pf on the other side of the resistor as a noise filter on that input, and

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:55:24 PM Kirk Wallace did opine: On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 21:37 -0400, gene heskett wrote: ... snip What happens if the pump frequency is reduced to say 10% of what its set at now? I haven't tried that. If I disconnect the G540 so there is no load on the

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, April 16, 2012 12:05:22 AM Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: Looking at the scope traces, either the probe is way out of calibration against the scopes own test square wave, or the 540 has a low value series resistor, 33-120 ohm range, with several hundred pf on the

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Peter
Hi Gene, You don't want to use an opto-isolation card with the G540 as it already is opto-isolated. Cheers,   peter   --- Peter Homann http://www.homanndesigns.com/store On Mon 16/04/12 2:04 PM , gene heskett wrote:On Sunday, April 15, 2012 11:55:24 PM Kirk

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Gary P. Fiber
I need to find the start of this thread. i am running a G540, an Intel M525MW board with Probotix steppers motors and all 3 axes move fine. I just need to calibrate them for proper distance and get the homing Hall effect sensors connected.I am not running the charge pump enabled in the G540.

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Peter
  Pretty sure that the SOT 3 device will be a reverse voltage protection diode for the opto LED diode. pf caps are not  usually termed big ones. I would ecpect that the charge pump circuitry is on the other side of the opto.   Cheers,   Peter. --- Peter Homann

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Dave
For whatever reason, the G540 charge pump input works fine with the Intel D525MW board and LinuxCNC. Whether or not you use it is really up to you. The Intel D525MW board may be the cheap fix to the G540 charge pump compatibility issue. :-/ Dave On 4/16/2012 12:23 AM, Gary P. Fiber wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
I tried a 75AC541 buffer on the SIIG card: http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/G540/g540_siig_buf.jpg and then tried it unbuffered at 1kHz: http://wallacecompany.com/machine_shop/G540/g540_siig_1kHz.jpg I got a green LED on both. The SIIG worked at 5kHz unbuffered too, but peaked 1 Volt

Re: [Emc-users] Dave, Storebro260

2012-04-15 Thread Roger Holmquist
16 apr 2012 kl. 03:38 skrev emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net: Is there a small keyboard on that Spindle drive with some led displays? Thanks for your response Dave! I don't think i have any such devices, there is some LED-lights but no displays on some cards and no visible

Re: [Emc-users] G540 Test Update

2012-04-15 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2012-04-15 at 21:23 -0700, Gary P. Fiber wrote: I need to find the start of this thread. i am running a G540, an Intel M525MW board with Probotix steppers motors and all 3 axes move fine. I just need to calibrate them for proper distance and get the homing Hall effect sensors