Re: [Emc-users] OT, Pic controller? needed for high school play

2013-10-16 Thread Robert Shell
I would disagree with getting a Plc versus getting a pic micro controller . I use picaxe chips which come preloaded with a boot loader and there is a free programmer available. Picaxe chips come in various sizes. The one I use the most is the 18m2 which are as cheap as 4.95 each.

Re: [Emc-users] joint_axes3 - info needed

2013-10-16 Thread Tomaz T .
I recently updated on ja4 and issue with jog in world mode is still present. -- October Webinars: Code for Performance Free Intel webinars can help you accelerate application

Re: [Emc-users] Bypassing Hal_manualtoolchange

2013-10-16 Thread andy pugh
Rather belatedly I have just realised that there is a much easier solution. This is the use-case for M61 isn't it? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto -- October Webinars: Code

Re: [Emc-users] OT, Pic controller? needed for high school play

2013-10-16 Thread John Prentice (FS)
Greetings I'm told I need a pic controller for this and the engineer where I work says he'll put it all together and program it, but I need to find it and buy it first. Any help I can get on this will be greatly appreciated. I suspect there is a misunderstanding as what you say sounds high

Re: [Emc-users] OT, Pic controller? needed for high school play

2013-10-16 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 16.10.13 01:04, Dave Cole wrote: Don't over think this.. Personally I think a PIC is WAY over thinking this..a cheap PLC with relay outputs would be easier to work with and more cost effective for a one off like this..(if it is even required) Automation Direct has relay output

[Emc-users] Looping a program

2013-10-16 Thread aaron moore
Hi Can anyone tell me, or point me to somewhere that can, how to loop a program continuosly untill the stop button is pressed? Thanx Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh Skinners Bottom Redruth Cornwall TR16 5DY Tel: 01209 890084 Mob: 07805686188 Email:aaronmo...@linuxmail.org Web:

Re: [Emc-users] Looping a program

2013-10-16 Thread John Thornton
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/o-code.html#sec:looping JT On 10/16/2013 5:19 AM, aaron moore wrote: Hi Can anyone tell me, or point me to somewhere that can, how to loop a program continuosly untill the stop button is pressed? Thanx Aaron Re-Form Furniture Aaron Moore Conileigh

Re: [Emc-users] Looping a program

2013-10-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 October 2013 11:19, aaron moore aaronmo...@linuxmail.org wrote: Can anyone tell me, or point me to somewhere that can, how to loop a program continuosly untill the stop button is pressed? One way: O100 WHILE [1] G-Code Here O100 ENDWHILE If you prefer to have something that will

Re: [Emc-users] Looping a program

2013-10-16 Thread Dave Caroline
I would put a while loop and check the switch (or even for stock feed) you can then stop cleanly rather than stop instantly Dave Caroline On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 11:19 AM, aaron moore aaronmo...@linuxmail.org wrote: Hi Can anyone tell me, or point me to somewhere that can, how to loop a

Re: [Emc-users] Looping a program

2013-10-16 Thread Schooner
Put it in a sub and call that sub from the main program in an endless loop (while(1) or similar) Hi Can anyone tell me, or point me to somewhere that can, how to loop a program continuosly untill the stop button is pressed? Thanx Aaron

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Dr . Mclem
Sorry for posting late to this one, but I think a big off putting issue remains the hardware requirements for the real time kernel. Anybody wanting to just try it out always has doubts, based on reading the wiki on whether a computer they happen to have, or to purchase will run it ok and not

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 8:55 AM, Dr.Mclem dr.mc...@virgin.net wrote: Mach3 gives the impression it will run on any motherboard and it not clear to new users what advantage if anything the rt kernel gives for that uncertainty. I can't imagine that Mach doesn't have the same problems as

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread John Alexander Stewart
Matthew; I agree with the will my computer work comment - an intuitive observation. We set expectations for LinuxCNC to fail unless lucky, whilst Mach3 sets it up to run, and failure is an unlucky event. Also, LinuxCNC focuses on software stepping, which requires good latency, whilst Mach3

[Emc-users] I think I 'fat fingered' something

2013-10-16 Thread jrmitchellj .
After a couple of hours trying to troubleshoot this, I am reaching to to the experts! I was setting up to cut a job. I ran it, cutting air, and decided to check/set the tool offsets. Somewhere in doing this, I got the following error: Near line 74 of

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Are we naive because we use steppers or because we dont know what is happening. I have used steppers on both systems for a long time. If the machine is operated within decent operating limits, you will not have any problems whatsoever. Even when running steppers. Dont believe that servos are

Re: [Emc-users] I think I 'fat fingered' something

2013-10-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 October 2013 15:24, jrmitchellj . jrmitche...@gmail.com wrote: /home/eagle/linuxcnc/nc_files/SD_0910DRW01_new.ngc Radius to end of arc differs from radius to start: start=(X0.8794,Y0.7247) center=(X07778,Y0.5310) end=(X0.9966,Y0.3372) r1=0.2187 You seem to have lost a decimal point

Re: [Emc-users] I think I 'fat fingered' something

2013-10-16 Thread jrmitchellj .
Your right, my typo, not in the original error dialog. --J. Ray Mitchell Jr. jrmitche...@gmail.com (818)324-7573 “Truth is treason in the Empire of Lies.” — Ron Paul On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 7:32 AM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 16 October 2013 15:24, jrmitchellj .

Re: [Emc-users] OT, Pic controller? needed for high school play

2013-10-16 Thread Ted Hyde
Bruce - Although LCNC could be made to do work, as a theatrical lighting designer by trade, I'd lean towards using DMX control technologies - and there are plenty of hackable devices out there that can work. True, a custom PIC solution would be quite satisfactory, but then the asset would be

Re: [Emc-users] OT, Pic controller? needed for high school, play

2013-10-16 Thread Ted Hyde
On 10/16/2013 6:19 AM, emc-users-requ...@lists.sourceforge.net wrote: But plays don't run to split second schedules. Since remote control is snip Erik Humorously, of course: Um, yeah we do - locking to time code (30 fps) is a pretty common occurrence. What used to be a hard line of high

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Ricardo Moscoloni
Hi Marius, did you say that about cost reasons of steppers against servos? regards rick 2013/10/16 Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za: Are we naive because we use steppers or because we dont know what is happening. I have used steppers on both systems for a long time. If the machine is

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Dave Cole
Sure Mach3 can have hardware issues also.. that is well documented. The usual solution is to use a different PC motherboard, which is pretty much what the LinuxCNC guys end up doing also.Mach3 is not recommended for laptops since their power saving features often screw things up. I

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Pete Matos
Personally having used both mach3 as well as LinuxCNC now for awhile, I can honestly say that I would never go back to Mach3. It was quirky at best for me and did a lot of funky things for no apparent reason. The basic system was stable but you could not do to much dancing around on the main

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Yes Ricardo, mostly cost and simplicity. I love servos but if I quoted servos for every machine I would be very hungry and weight a lot less than what I do now. :) I have never set up a machine with steppers that is not as accurate as any servo. The only big downside with steppers for me is the

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 October 2013 13:40:05 Dave Cole did opine: Sure Mach3 can have hardware issues also.. that is well documented. The usual solution is to use a different PC motherboard, which is pretty much what the LinuxCNC guys end up doing also.Mach3 is not recommended for laptops since

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Dave Cole
In the midwest USA, that would be worth scrap value less the haul away charge.. Scrap like that is going for about $220 per ton around me.That guy will be waiting a long. time if he wants more than scrap value for it.. Sounds like a lot of work! Dave On 10/16/2013 2:04 PM, Gene

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 October 2013 14:28:15 Dave Cole did opine: In the midwest USA, that would be worth scrap value less the haul away charge.. I am in WV. I don't think scrap cast even makes $180/ton here. Scrap like that is going for about $220 per ton around me.That guy will be waiting

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Dave Cole
On 10/16/2013 2:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Looks like I'll pass in any event. Hopefully I find out tomorrow how much it will cost me to get a left knee that blocks x-rays. I'm guessing a lot more than that lathe costs ... Most of the artificial joints made in the USA are made just west of me

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Moses McKnight
Not quite wasted I don't think, because the extra power gives you more acceleration which is important for keeping your speed up on corners and smaller arcs for plamsa cutting. On 10/16/2013 11:48 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: Yes Ricardo, mostly cost and simplicity. I love servos but if I

Re: [Emc-users] pumakins compiling problem

2013-10-16 Thread rudy du preez
I am having problems to compile pumakins using the command: comp --install pumakins.c The warning during compilation is Unknown Symbol: pmHomPoseConvert pmPoseHomConvert pmRpyQuatConvert pmQuatRpyConvert Can anybody explain to me how to compile pumakins.c. There seems to be a problem with it

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Eric Keller
On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Marius Liebenberg mar...@mastercut.co.za wrote: Are we naive because...? I clipped it there because naive in the context I used it in means a person that doesn't have the experience or understanding required to make a proper judgement, in this case about whether

Re: [Emc-users] pumakins compiling problem

2013-10-16 Thread Andrew
2013/10/16 rudy du preez rud...@iburst.co.zahttps://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=rud...@iburst.co.za I am having problems to compile pumakins using the command: comp --install pumakins.c AFAIK the kinematics including external modules need to be compiled within the tree. At

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Marius Liebenberg
That was tong in cheek. I understand and agree with the sentiments. I sometimes have to de-tune windows in order to get Mach to perform sufficiently on some machines. I will only use Mach if my user insists and if they dont have much inclination to get to know their machine. On 2013/10/16

Re: [Emc-users] OT, Pic controller? needed for high school play

2013-10-16 Thread Bruce Klawiter
Ted, That was some awesome information. The engineer I'm working with says it doesn't matter to him what I find to control the lights and other bits, I just have to do the leg work and find it. I'm liking the DMX compatible device you mention, and could use some guidance on what to purchase.

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 16 October 2013 21:21:58 Dave Cole did opine: On 10/16/2013 2:36 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: Looks like I'll pass in any event. Hopefully I find out tomorrow how much it will cost me to get a left knee that blocks x-rays. I'm guessing a lot more than that lathe costs ... Yeah,

Re: [Emc-users] Perceived issues with LinuxCNC

2013-10-16 Thread Dave Cole
On 10/16/2013 9:30 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: 'm guessing a lot more than that lathe costs ... Yeah, I've heard rumors of 30 large. I'll limp along on this for that sort of money. I can make me a polio style brace for far less than that. It is improving, albeit slowly but I'm only using the

Re: [Emc-users] I think I 'fat fingered' something

2013-10-16 Thread jrmitchellj .
Well, a little light reading of the LinuxCNC documents gave me some hints on what might be happening. I opened the tool table file with gedit and found one of the tool entry's had a X value in addittion to the Z value. I deleted it, re-loaded the tool table, and the problem is gone. So it was