Re: [Emc-users] Backlash comp monitoring

2020-01-23 Thread nkp
there is a small description in the source code: 'compute_screw_comp()' is responsible for calculating backlash and lead screw error compensation. (Leadscrew error compensation is a more sophisticated version that includes backlash comp.) It uses the velocity in emcmotStatus->joint_vel_

Re: [Emc-users] Backlash comp monitoring

2020-01-23 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 24 Jan 2020, at 05:07, David Berndt wrote: > > I'm having a bit of an issue with some geometry not coming out as expected, I > was hoping that being able to see what backlash comp is doing on screen. It would also be very useful to understand the algorithm being used to apply backlash comp

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread John Dammeyer
Comments between. > -Original Message- > From: bari [mailto:bari00...@gmail.com] > The guy down the hall from me has been keeping RTAI alive for LCNC the > past few years. I'm not sure if real time performance would be much > better using QNX vs Linux + RTAI on a PC. I think one first has

[Emc-users] Backlash comp monitoring

2020-01-23 Thread David Berndt
Hello All, I'm having a bit of an issue with some geometry not coming out as expected. I suspect it's related to backlash and cutting forces moving the table a bit but I don't have linear scales to monitor/correct for that sort of thing so I'm left wondering a bit. I was hoping that being a

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread bari
The guy down the hall from me has been keeping RTAI alive for LCNC the past few years. I'm not sure if real time performance would be much better using QNX vs Linux + RTAI on a PC. http://blackberry.qnx.com/en/software-solutions/embedded-software/industrial/qnx-nuetrino-rtos There would be trade-

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.7.15 release

2020-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 January 2020 21:09:17 Dale Ertley via Emc-users wrote: > Hello all,I was going to try the new LinuxCNC 2.7.15 releace but I can > not find the download.The page is there with a list of the new > contributors and the many things that have been fixed.Just can't seem > to find where to

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.7.15 release

2020-01-23 Thread Dale Ertley via Emc-users
Hello all,I was going to try the new LinuxCNC 2.7.15 releace but I can not find the download.The page is there with a list of the new contributors and the many things that have been fixed.Just can't seem to find where to download.Also is 2.7.15 setup to be put on a USB drive to install?Thank you

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/23/2020 06:52 PM, R C wrote: I always wondered why FPGAs are(still?) that popular... Because you can develop quite a bit of custom logic on a $10 chip. One of my motion controller boards packs 4 quadrature counters capable of up to 5 million counts/second and 4 PWM generators with a 40

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/23/2020 03:42 PM, Andy Pugh wrote: On 23 Jan 2020, at 22:03, John Dammeyer wrote: It's likely the real number of LinuxCNC users is way way larger than one thinks. Might even exceed HAAS systems by an order of magnitude. I think PCW mentioned 10,000 boards of a particular type out i

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread R C
I always wondered why FPGAs are(still?)  that popular... Way back when, in some research work I did, in my field they were mostly used for building stuff that didn't exist, as a test bed. For fun we once implemented a univac on it, because we could. Ron On 1/23/20 12:29 PM, Peter C. Wall

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread R C
That is definitely true, I think.  Also, I think that RTOS is sort of a left-over from a few decades ago, because back then ther were no other options.  Nowadays it still has a place, although of course there are different way more sophisticated solutions. That pretty much works the same is i

[Emc-users] 7i76 TB4 Spindle + - question

2020-01-23 Thread Brent Loschen
I seem to recall stumbling across a post regarding a high current draw between the Spindle + and Spindle - (7i76-TB4 pins 1 and 3), but I'll be darned if I can find it now using the full might of Google.  My question is this:  is there any problem using 5V from the cable/host interface to pow

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Andy Pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > Sent: January-23-20 1:42 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers > > > > > On 23 Jan 2020, at 22:03, John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > > It's likely the re

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I don't know how many machines a month Haas sells now but around the year 2000 they were selling 1000 a month. On Thu, Jan 23, 2020, 3:44 PM Andy Pugh wrote: > > > > On 23 Jan 2020, at 22:03, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > > It's likely the real number of LinuxCNC users is way way larger than > on

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 23 Jan 2020, at 22:03, John Dammeyer wrote: > > It's likely the real number of LinuxCNC users is way way larger than one > thinks. Might even exceed HAAS systems by an order of magnitude. I think PCW mentioned 10,000 boards of a particular type out in the wild. __

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 23 January 2020 13:17:44 Chris Albertson wrote: > The trouble with the Mesa FPGA design is that it depends on a computer > with good real-time performance. It can generate steps but I don't > thing you can run a position or velocity PID control loop on the FPGA. > > You asked about "

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: Peter C. Wallace [mailto:p...@mesanet.com] > > Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:17:44 -0800 > > From: Chris Albertson > > > > The trouble with the Mesa FPGA design is that it depends on a computer > with > > good real-time performance. It can generate steps but I

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 23 Jan 2020, Chris Albertson wrote: Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2020 10:17:44 -0800 From: Chris Albertson Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers The trouble with the Mesa FPGA desig

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Chris Albertson
The trouble with the Mesa FPGA design is that it depends on a computer with good real-time performance. It can generate steps but I don't thing you can run a position or velocity PID control loop on the FPGA. You asked about "my controler". No this is not my idea, this is how most current desig

Re: [Emc-users] Real-time OS for machine controllers

2020-01-23 Thread Les Newell
PCs are cheap, easily available and easy to code on. They provide huge amounts of processing power for little money and are very well suited to GUI applications. However they are not designed for hard real time work. LinuxCNC does a good job but even then it tends to be a bit touchy if not pair