Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread John Dammeyer
I think we perhaps need to take a step back before this turns into a series of unworkable positions. The 3D printers with Arduino based controllers work because they are dedicated to what they do. For the same reason my ELS project using only an 8 bit PIC controller is very good at what it

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Chris Albertson
No, RT patches are not a waste of time. But using something as big as a Linux based PC to drive a machine is not going to be popular today and will be even less so in 10 years. 40 years ago the PC is the only affordable computer that had enough compute power. This is not longer true. we now

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Feral Engineer
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Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 24 Dec 2021, Chris Albertson wrote: Date: Fri, 24 Dec 2021 10:51:24 -0800 From: Chris Albertson Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions The problem that is limiting LCNC's wider use

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Stuart Stevenson
My first experience with NC/CNC was in 1978 on a 1958 Cleereman VMC with a GE Mark Century 100 control. That makes the technology over 61 years old. The control enclosure sitting beside the machine was 6 X 6 X 5 feet. The cooling unit was a LARGE household AC window unit. There were 100's of 4 X 6

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Murray Lindeblom
I agree that an iPad or tablet appears to be an excellent user interface. The motion controlling portion is the only portion of the code that needs to be synchronised. Real-time operating systems can be used or the playback approach are alternatives. The advantage this group has is assisting

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Sam Sokolik
Hmm.. so the realtime patches being integrated into Linux kernel is worthless old technology? They are waisting their time? (This is unrelated to LinuxCNC) Currently LinuxCNC is being added to debian testing. It will soon be part of the debian repository. On Fri, Dec 24, 2021, 12:54 PM Chris

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Chris Albertson
The problem that is limiting LCNC's wider use is that it is a very old design. It is definitely not what anyone would design today. And it is not what moderned users expect or want. Documentation i=will not change what it is. Today, if this were being built again from scratch it would Run

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: Andy Pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > > On 24 Dec 2021, at 10:46, J�r�mie Tarot wrote: > > > > "my" idea along this line would be to develop/document > > a set of "reference implementations" > > There are some case studies in the Wiki. However these are probably rather > out of date

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Murray Lindeblom
That's great information! Is there a tabulation of data such as your HAL scope results comparing the merits of commonly used CNC control programs. Murray On Thu, 23 Dec 2021 at 15:51, Sam Sokolik wrote: > Because linuxcnc is so flexible - I actually did some testing between mach3 > and

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Peter Hodgson
Yes, I definitely think the more ‘Plug & Playable’ LCNC options there are the more it will be adopted and the more the community will develop and be supported as some PnP users get more interested/confident and delve deeper into LCNC. My own LCNC journey started from zero. Not knowing what a

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 24 Dec 2021, at 10:46, Jérémie Tarot wrote: > > "my" idea along this line would be to develop/document > a set of "reference implementations" There are some case studies in the Wiki. However these are probably rather out of date and are probably not at the level you envisage.

Re: [Emc-users] Choice of CNC conversions

2021-12-24 Thread Jérémie Tarot
Hi, Le jeu. 23 déc. 2021 à 20:05, John Dammeyer a écrit : > ... But I wonder if it wouldn't be a good idea in the new year to develop a > build thread that takes a beginner through conversion of a mill to LCNC so > it appears to be turnkey like the perhaps the ACORN CNC approach. > > Comments?

Re: [Emc-users] Complex 6 axis robot arm.

2021-12-24 Thread John Dammeyer
Not that patient it turns out. Four hours later I tested the two gears and the only discouraging observation is how easily the excess epoxy scratched off the nylon gear surface. No worries about surplus epoxy clogging up the teeth. Not sure how well it will hold. Put it all back together.