Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread charles green
that the coffee pot is empty because the coffee machine had a problem downloading the most recent bean roast sensing algorithm.   --- On Mon, 2/20/12, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: From: Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread James Louis
) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC? the allocation of computing resources seems to be a recurring theme with pc based machine controllers. while i have wished for an accesible pocket calculator gui more than one time while standing in front

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Tue, 2012-02-21 at 03:47 -0800, charles green wrote: the allocation of computing resources seems to be a recurring theme with pc based machine controllers. while i have wished for an accesible pocket calculator gui more than one time while standing in front of a machining center console,

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread Erik Friesen
It would be nice to know enough to debug latency issues, instead it feels like kludging around with no idea what is the cause. I suppose rtai has some tools if you know what you are doing. On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:12 PM, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.comwrote: On Tue, 2012-02-21 at

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-21 Thread Eric Keller
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 1:26 PM, Erik Friesen e...@aercon.net wrote: It would be nice to know enough to debug latency issues, instead it feels like kludging around with no idea what is the cause.  I suppose rtai has some tools if you know what you are doing. Do they? It's been a while since I

[Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 20 February 2012 06:14, Jon Elson el...@pico-systems.com wrote: Dropout wrote: A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? Yes, absolutely. But, it is not as critical. For software stepping, the base thread is typically around 20 us, and so a jitter of even 5 us is more

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-20 Thread Andrew
2012/2/20 Roland Jollivet roland.jolli...@gmail.com So the norm is that a stepper system can run off the parallel port, but for DC servo's, extra hardware is required to sample the encoders. My question is; if one built a headless system(no video) and disabled drivers wherever possible,

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-20 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/2/20 Roland Jollivet roland.jolli...@gmail.com: My question is; if one built a headless system(no video) and disabled drivers wherever possible, would such a system be fast enough to run DC servo's and read the encoders on the parallel port? As Andrew mentioned, for normal speed with

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-20 Thread Jon Elson
Roland Jollivet wrote: My question is; if one built a headless system(no video) and disabled drivers wherever possible, would such a system be fast enough to run DC servo's and read the encoders on the parallel port? You have to figure this out for each case. What is the maximum encoder

[Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Dropout
A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? Dropout. On 2/19/2012 1:36 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: 2012/2/19 Alan Browningajbrowning2...@yahoo.com: Thanks for the quick response. So you build your machines from the ground up with new componenets? Due to budget limitations I have to

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Peter C. Wallace
- was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC? A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? Dropout. Well at some amount of latency it matters but servo systems will tolerate a lot more latency than software step generation will. 50 - 100 uSec of latency on a servo system will do

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Dropout
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC? A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? Dropout. Well at some amount of latency it matters but servo systems will tolerate a lot more latency than software step generation

Re: [Emc-users] Latency - was Re: Which video card/driver for LinuxCNC?

2012-02-19 Thread Jon Elson
Dropout wrote: A quick question, does latency matter for servo drives? Yes, absolutely. But, it is not as critical. For software stepping, the base thread is typically around 20 us, and so a jitter of even 5 us is more than noticeable. But, on a typical servo system (or a stepper with