Re: [Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-25 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 25 February 2019 13:35:41 Bruce Layne wrote: > On 2/25/19 5:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > My favourite wierd unit is the megaparsec.barn. It's a about a > > teaspoon, but very long and thin. > > There's a Wikipedia article for people like you. > >

Re: [Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-25 Thread Bruce Layne
On 2/25/19 5:10 AM, andy pugh wrote: > My favourite wierd unit is the megaparsec.barn. It's a about a > teaspoon, but very long and thin. There's a Wikipedia article for people like you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_humorous_units_of_measurement When I first heard that Google would

Re: [Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-25 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 at 07:47, Bruce Layne wrote: > Forget measuring cutting speed in mm per second. What is it in furlongs > per fortnight? Annoyingly, though, metric cutting speeds are quoted in m/min which introduces a pointless sexagesimal unit into all calculations. Though given that we

Re: [Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-25 Thread John Dammeyer
And here I thought I was the only person left on the planet that used this measurement... John > > Forget measuring cutting speed in mm per second.� What is it in furlongs > per fortnight? > ___ Emc-users mailing list

Re: [Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-24 Thread Bruce Layne
As an American engineer, I almost invariably convert my "real world" units into the metric system, solve the problem, and then translate the solution back into the units that are used in my country.  Cumulatively, it's a significant competitive disadvantage for a nation, but it's easier than

Re: [Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-24 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 24 Feb 2019, at 14:29, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Old measures die hard was the takeaway. So > we still buy milk etc by the gallon or meats by the pound In the UK we buy milk by the litre. Either 0.568litres, 1.13 litres or 3.408 litres. The Student Union Bar At Imperial College is

Re: [Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-24 Thread Eric Keller
Yes, people who complain about the metric system apparently don't realize that they are using it without even knowing it. The United States adopted the metric standard for the inch in 1959. All of our customary units are now defined in terms of the metric system. The call is coming from inside

Re: [Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-24 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 24 February 2019 06:15:26 Peter Blodow wrote: > P.S: People who are used to sixteenths of the width of a medieval > thumb, the weight of rocks used in throwing competitions and the > volume of barrels way too heavy for carrying as measures should not > argue earnestly in public about

[Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-24 Thread Roland Jollivet
And by the way, (maybe already mentioned?), the inch used to vary in length until it was defined as a function of the metre. So the Americans are working in metric, but converted by 2.54 ... On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 at 13:17, Peter Blodow wrote: > P.S: People who are used to sixteenths of the

[Emc-users] Metric units (was: Would this blower be useful...)

2019-02-24 Thread Peter Blodow
P.S: People who are used to sixteenths of the width of a medieval thumb, the weight of rocks used in throwing competitions and the volume of barrels way too heavy for carrying as measures should not argue earnestly in public about metric decimal units... No offence! Peter Blodow Am 24.02.2019

[Emc-users] Metric tapping drill sizes [Was: Tapping G code]

2013-08-18 Thread Erik Christiansen
On 15.08.13 06:13, John Thornton wrote: In the Machinery's Handbook it has charts about various thread limits based on amount of engagement and some text that says In general when the engagement length is one and one half times the nominal diameter a 50 or 55 per cent thread is

Re: [Emc-users] Metric tapping drill sizes [Was: Tapping G code]

2013-08-18 Thread Marius Liebenberg
Thanks Erik, that is the kind of information I have been looking for. Much appreciated. On 2013/08/18 12:14 PM, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 15.08.13 06:13, John Thornton wrote: In the Machinery's Handbook it has charts about various thread limits based on amount of engagement and some text

[Emc-users] Metric threads on an inch machine - Re: Need socket head 6x1mm by 35mm bolts

2013-01-28 Thread John Stewart
Peter; On 2013-01-28, at 4:38 AM, Peter Blodow wrote: Mmmh, twenty odd answers - and nobody had the idea of simply and quickly making those few bolts on the lathe? Last week, I needed some 3/8 x 16 tpi bolts to fasten a little wood router to the table of my Cooksley … A few weeks ago on my

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Rafael Skodlar
Douglas Pollard wrote: .. But what difference does base 10 make to a guy running a cnc machine?? Let me answer with a question: what's easier to add, 3/8 + 11/32 or 0.375 + 0.34375? While this is CNC related mailing list, standards are critical for clear communications between interested

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net: But what difference does base 10 make to a guy running a cnc machine?? Absolutely none at all. The numbers are just numbers, and it doesn't matter what the units are as they are always [length] There does seem to be a little confusion inside EMC

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Rainer Schmidt
I can vouch for the problems the us imperial system is creating. There is not a single day in a custom shop I know off where there are no parts messed up because of conversion problems which simply would not exist with the metric system. Instead of simply shifting the decimal point one has to be

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Douglas Pollard
Rainer Schmidt wrote: I can vouch for the problems the us imperial system is creating. There is not a single day in a custom shop I know off where there are no parts messed up because of conversion problems which simply would not exist with the metric system. Instead of simply shifting the

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Jack Coats
Would it also help if we did the same for time and went to a decimal clock with 10 hours per day and 100 minutes per hour, and 100 seconds per minute? (it would also be more accurate, 100,000 seconds per day versus 86,400, so the seconds would be smaller too!) Also time zones could be decimal,

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net:      The Germans have have a set of metric standards the English have ISO standards and the Spanish have still another. I _think_ that DIN (German) BS( British) JIS (Japanes) and the rest have all converged on ISO (Inrternational) but I might be

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Jack Coats j...@coats.org: Would it also help if we did the same for time and went to a decimal clock with 10 hours per day and 100 minutes per hour, and 100 seconds per minute? It would certainly be a useful boost to the clockmaking and watchmaking industries. I did see a

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Greg Michalski
for some inane reason still uses them) tool. Bravo! Greg www.distinctperspectives.com -Original Message- From: Andy Pugh [mailto:a...@andypugh.fsnet.co.uk] Sent: Friday, June 12, 2009 11:27 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Metric? 2009/6/12 Douglas

Re: [Emc-users] Metric

2009-06-12 Thread Ian Wright
Jack wrote... We could just go computer and do it all in binary, or to be more succinct in hexadecimal. Why do programmers always get Christmas and Halloween mixed up? Because DEC 25 = OCT 31 Ian -- Crystal Reports -

Re: [Emc-users] Metric

2009-06-12 Thread Ian Wright
Jack wrote: Would it also help if we did the same for time and went to a decimal clock with 10 hours per day and 100 minutes per hour... The French tried it during the French Revolution when it was mandated by a decree on 5 Oct 1793. It was brought into use in 1794 and abandoned in 1795

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-12 Thread Douglas Pollard
Andy Pugh wrote: 2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net: The Germans have have a set of metric standards the English have ISO standards and the Spanish have still another. I _think_ that DIN (German) BS( British) JIS (Japanes) and the rest have all converged on ISO

Re: [Emc-users] Metric

2009-06-12 Thread Andy Pugh
2009/6/12 Ian Wright watchm...@fastmail.fm: You can also find most sizes from 0.10 inch (.254mm) up in the table on my website at http://tinyurl.com/mhmc27 . Ah, yes. Better layout, more sizes. Still has my name at the bottom, gets my vote :-) -- atp

Re: [Emc-users] Metric? and aviation

2009-06-12 Thread cmgfam
2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net: But what difference does base 10 make to a guy running a cnc machine?? The aviation industry stepped around the imperial system of linear measurement by ONLY using inches and decimal portions of them. Stations and waterlines! Don't civil

Re: [Emc-users] Metric? and aviation

2009-06-12 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Aviation uses buttlines, stationlines, waterlines, lofting and the XYZ zero is a distance in front of the plane. On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 4:09 PM, cmg...@sover.net wrote: 2009/6/12 Douglas Pollard dougp...@verizon.net: But what difference does base 10 make to a guy running a cnc machine??

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-11 Thread cmgfam
Reducing metric to a decimal system only,is missing the point. The metric system is BASE TEN. An important distinction from imperial. The units of both metric and imperial could be considered arbitrary as most seem to change with refinement and our ability to divide and measure to greater

Re: [Emc-users] Metric?

2009-06-11 Thread Douglas Pollard
cmg...@sover.net wrote: Reducing metric to a decimal system only,is missing the point. The metric system is BASE TEN. An important distinction from imperial. The units of both metric and imperial could be considered arbitrary as most seem to change with refinement and our ability to divide