Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-04 Thread Neil
So back for a bit, and have decided to get the D525MW w/1GB of RAM. Placing order in the morning. I completely forgot about this CF-to-IDE option, and will prob look into it later, but for now I'm anxious to get something up and running. Incremental dev ;) FWIW, I have 16 2.5" drives here

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-01 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/7/1 Dave : > ..what do you think they are buying them > for ..  $3.00 each !?!   Crazy.. I think that You are close - I bought 3 exactly-looking Sata-to-CF adapters on e-bay from chinese seller for 4 USD a piece (and I think that price included the shipping, don't remember correctly). Viestu

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-01 Thread Karl Cunningham
On 07/01/2011 09:34 AM, Jon Elson wrote: > Dave wrote: >> I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. >> > Thanks much for the data! >> I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates >> seem to be much more reliable. >> > Yeah, the WD drive on my kid's computer h

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-01 Thread Jack Coats
I have a friend that runs a data recovery service. Not cheap but not bad if you must have that data. He has had professional training, done it for a while, invested in the right toys, but it is his sideline. If you are interested, send me your contact information off-line and I will have him con

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-01 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote: > I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. > Thanks much for the data! > I'm not a fan of WD drives. I have had problems with them. Seagates > seem to be much more reliable. > Yeah, the WD drive on my kid's computer had a failure in the power-off head locking m

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-01 Thread Dave
$6.70 - yep that is cheap.The Sata adapters from new egg come with cables, power and Sata, and also a PCI bracket and in the case of the Addonics I think it also comes with a drive bay bracket (better check to make sure I am right). But if you don't need that stuff.. Those DealExtreme pri

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-01 Thread Andrew
2011/7/1 Dave : > I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. > > 1.  About $40 each - Addonics - model ADSACF.   I bought several > directly from their website.  Similar to this: > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812174005&cm_re=sata_compact_flash_adapter-_-12-174-

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-01 Thread Dave
I have used two different Sata compact flash adapters. 1. About $40 each - Addonics - model ADSACF. I bought several directly from their website. Similar to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812174005&cm_re=sata_compact_flash_adapter-_-12-174-005-_-Product 2. Abou

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-07-01 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/7/1 Przemek Klosowski : > You can see it when the machine boots up, but it's easier to check it > on the running Linux system by running the 'dmidecode' program; on my > machine, it prints the BIOS info in the first record: Ok, thank You! I will try to remember to check the BIOS version and l

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > I do not have access to that machine, so there is no way for me to check. > BTW how can I do it? I have never tried to find out, what BIOS version > any of my PCs is running. You can see it when the machine boots up, but it's easier to che

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Jon Elson
Dave wrote: > Neil, > > If you are going for cheap, consider using a 8 gig Compact Flash Card in > a Sata to CF card adapter. > > I have a few running in machines now for a couple of years with zero issues. > > I can tell you exactly what parts I am using if you want to go that > route. 8 gigs

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Chris Radek
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 04:54:02PM -0400, Dave wrote: > Neil, > > If you are going for cheap, consider using a 8 gig Compact Flash Card in > a Sata to CF card adapter. > > I have a few running in machines now for a couple of years with zero issues. I have this on two machines as well. -

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Dave
On 6/30/2011 1:42 PM, Neil wrote: > I should stop talking about Mach3 here on this list, especially since > I'm not going to need that anymore.:) > That's ok Neil we all have our things in our past that we need to deal with BTW, my name is Dave and I was a Machaholic... ;-) Dave

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/6/30 Kent A. Reed : > > As usual, the posters neglect to tell us vital information, in this > case, the BIOS version of their D525MW motherboard. I do not have access to that machine, so there is no way for me to check. BTW how can I do it? I have never tried to find out, what BIOS version an

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Dave
Neil, If you are going for cheap, consider using a 8 gig Compact Flash Card in a Sata to CF card adapter. I have a few running in machines now for a couple of years with zero issues. I can tell you exactly what parts I am using if you want to go that route. 8 gigs is plenty of space for Ubun

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Thu, 30 Jun 2011, Neil wrote: > Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2011 10:29:36 -0700 > From: Neil > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question > > Maybe I over-simplified.

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
Quoting Kirk Wallace : > I would consider using the drives you have and set up RAID. > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID Funny enough, my existing EPIA800 mobo started life ~8yrs ago as a car MP3 player, hence the custom power supply. But the drive crashed on hard bumps, so I got pulled into

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
Maybe I over-simplified. It's sort of a glorified breakout. My understanding of the smoothstepper is that it is a motion control card (ie: handles acceleration, etc), whereas I don't see that the 7i43 does that. Cheers, -Neil. Quoting andy pugh : > On 30 June 2011 16:13, Neil wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
Coming to a similar conclusion. Mach3 has created a low-level driver that accesses the parallel port directly, so won't work with USB to parallel adapters, nor most parallel ISA/PCI cards. However, you're right that Mach3 may not need EPP/ECP modes. More importantly, I am wondering why we

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Kyle Kerr
Neil, you already have a system that functions. If you need a windows machine, would you not be well enough off to just utilize it for your windows based software? -- All of the data generated in your IT infrastructure is

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2011-06-30 at 08:05 -0700, Neil wrote: ... snip > I just hate throwing things away, and have about 5 PATA 2.5" drives, > two of which are quite new 120GB units. But I'm willing to pick up > whatever works well. Reliability is key, which is why the SSD is > tempting. FWIW, I know th

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 6/30/2011 11:22 AM, Neil wrote: > Found this interesting thread... > http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/id,6347/catid,9/limit,6/limitstart,0/lang,english/ > > > > > Quoting Neil: > >> ... Viesturs...do you happen to know if the D525MW contains the same B

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Les Newell
I have been using SSDs for a while and I have had more problems with them than with mechanical hard drives, especially with intensive use. They are very fast but I am not convinced of their long term reliability. At least when they do fail it is usually failure to write rather than loss of exis

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 June 2011 16:13, Neil wrote: > So the Mesa looks like a breakout card of sorts. It's rather more than that. The closest equivalent in the Mach3 world would be the SmoothStepper, but the 7i43 can do PWM, serial, SPI, count encoders, make the tea... -- atp "Torque wrenches are for the obed

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 June 2011 16:00, Neil wrote: >> Second, there is an error in the BIOS code of the D510M0 that causes it >> to report its parallel port settings incorrectly. > And wondering the exact thing about the D525MW.  EMC2 having a > workaround for it is excellent, but we'll also use this machine wi

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
Found this interesting thread... http://www.linuxcnc.org/component/option,com_kunena/Itemid,20/func,view/id,6347/catid,9/limit,6/limitstart,0/lang,english/ Quoting Neil : > ... >>> Viesturs...do you happen to know if the D525MW contains the same BIOS bug? >> >> Honestly - I have no idea. Eve

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
Quoting Viesturs L?cis : > 2011/6/30 Kent A. Reed : >> >> First, the parallel port on the Intel D510M0 is not brought out to a >> back connector. >> According to its manual, the D525MW does have a back connector for the >> parallel port. > > Yes, that is why I love D510 and why I was disappointed

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
Quoting "Kent A. Reed" : > > Neil. I tip my hat to you for working with high schoolers on technical > matters. I wish more people did. I have spent a fair amount of time with > several FIRST Robotics teams and I know how frustrating, fun, > frustrating, and rewarding it can be. > > Despite my packr

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
Quoting "Kent A. Reed" : > ... > Just a couple of points. > > First, the parallel port on the Intel D510M0 is not brought out to a > back connector. You'll have to make or buy a cable that terminates on > one end with a socket to match the internal connector (see the manual > for location and pino

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 June 2011 15:48, Neil wrote: > Newegg has this 60GB unit on sale for $90... > I'll need this extra space since the machine will be setup for > dual-boot with WinXP. For the incremental cost of the larger SSD you can very nearly buy a second PC to run Windows on... My Atom runs from an 80

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
I do have a SATA drive laying around, but really considering an SSD since the PC is built onto the unit and will see some vibration. Newegg has this 60GB unit on sale for $90... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227550&Tpk=OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G I'll need this extra space s

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Neil
Cool. Will investigate. I do have one SATA drive laying around, so that's really no problem -- just considered the PATA since I have many of those and as time passes it gets tougher to make use of those. From a quick glance, it looks like it has a parallel port connector on the board (no

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 6/30/2011 8:58 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2011/6/30 Kent A. Reed: >> First, the parallel port on the Intel D510M0 is not brought out to a >> back connector. >> According to its manual, the D525MW does have a back connector for the >> parallel port. > Yes, that is why I love D510 and why I was d

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/6/30 Kent A. Reed : > > First, the parallel port on the Intel D510M0 is not brought out to a > back connector. > According to its manual, the D525MW does have a back connector for the > parallel port. Yes, that is why I love D510 and why I was disappointed with D525 - using Mesa's 7i43 is so

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 6/30/2011 12:07 AM, Neil wrote: > Hi all, > > New to this list. I've been working with some high schoolers doing > engineering/robotics stuff and we built a nice 3+ axis stepper driven > workcell ... http://www.veisystems.com/nose/rw.html . > > Originally we set it up to work with a Mini-ITX mo

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Kent A. Reed
On 6/30/2011 5:40 AM, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2011/6/30 Neil: >> Can anyone recommend a mini-ITX (or other small) motherboard that will >> work with ubuntu/EMC2? > D510MO (and its new replacement D525MW) is definitely worth it. > Costing<100USD (and You get both - mainboard and CPU for that price)

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 June 2011 12:02, Viesturs Lācis wrote: > 2011/6/30 andy pugh : >> >> http://www.mini-box.com/SATA-Flash-Modules (cheaper on eBay) > > Uhh, those SATA modules are pretty pricey. Yes, that URL was just illustrative. I am using http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Black-MLC-Flash-DOM-Disk-Module-8GB-7PIN-SAT

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/6/30 andy pugh : > > http://www.mini-box.com/SATA-Flash-Modules (cheaper on eBay) Uhh, those SATA modules are pretty pricey. I used this one in the welding robot: http://www.kingston.com/ukroot/ssd/v_series.asp In my country 30GB version costs less than 100 USD. Price is better and capacity

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread andy pugh
On 30 June 2011 05:07, Neil wrote: > Can anyone recommend a mini-ITX (or other small) motherboard that will > work with ubuntu/EMC2? As Visteurs said, Intel D510MO, 1GB of RAM, 8GB DOM SATA drive and a PicoPSU makes a very good, no-moving-parts EMC2 machine with low latency. http://www.mini-box

Re: [Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2011/6/30 Neil : > > Can anyone recommend a mini-ITX (or other small) motherboard that will > work with ubuntu/EMC2? D510MO (and its new replacement D525MW) is definitely worth it. Costing <100USD (and You get both - mainboard and CPU for that price) they are very good for the job - latency number

[Emc-users] Newbie w/mobo question

2011-06-29 Thread Neil
Hi all, New to this list. I've been working with some high schoolers doing engineering/robotics stuff and we built a nice 3+ axis stepper driven workcell ... http://www.veisystems.com/nose/rw.html . Originally we set it up to work with a Mini-ITX motherboard, but it does not like Ubuntu.