Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 2/23/2015 11:26 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I need paintability to color the engraving. Bondabilty would be nice if I need to build a complex lens holder from parts. I could use aluminum or brass but I would need to treat or paint them to get a flat black finish. You could sandblast the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-25 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 2/23/2015 9:46 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I am using this site as a reference for making some telescope eyepieces: http://home.fuse.net/astronomy/ Larry chose to use urethane to make the blanks for machining. My experience with urethane is that recipes range from rubbery soft to pretty darn

[Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
I am using this site as a reference for making some telescope eyepieces: http://home.fuse.net/astronomy/ Larry chose to use urethane to make the blanks for machining. My experience with urethane is that recipes range from rubbery soft to pretty darn hard, but not fully hard. I need something

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Bari
On 02/23/2015 10:46 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I am using this site as a reference for making some telescope eyepieces: http://home.fuse.net/astronomy/ Larry chose to use urethane to make the blanks for machining. My experience with urethane is that recipes range from rubbery soft to pretty

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread dave
On 02/23/2015 10:26 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: On 02/23/2015 09:03 AM, Bari wrote: ... snip How are you defining fully hard? Urethane's can easily be over Shored D 90. Common PVC pipe is too soft. The threads fold over with running a fingernail over them. Phenolic is too hard, or rather

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Bruce Layne
PS - I machine some rubbery plastic parts that have a durometer similar to soft urethanes. I freeze the parts to make them harder, so they cut instead of smearing and tearing. On 02/23/2015 11:46 AM, Kirk Wallace wrote: I am using this site as a reference for making some telescope

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 02/23/2015 09:03 AM, Bari wrote: ... snip How are you defining fully hard? Urethane's can easily be over Shored D 90. Common PVC pipe is too soft. The threads fold over with running a fingernail over them. Phenolic is too hard, or rather brittle, the thread peaks break off. Although this is

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Bruce Layne
Black Delrin (acetal) turns nicely and produces good threads. I've also found that it can be sanded with a random orbital sander and 220 grit paper to make a gorgeous matte finish that has a warm velvet feel that also resists fingerprints. For round parts, you should be able to create the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Marcus Bowman
I use both Acetal and Delrin, in both white and black. Machining a batch of Delrin parts for most of this week. Did some Acetal parts last week. One-offs that turned into batches. Delrin is a bit stronger, mechanically, and a bit more abrasion resistant, but, for microscope parts, Acetal is

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday, February 23, 2015 03:29:26 PM Marcus Bowman wrote: I guess you will need a matt black finish, so the tip about producing a matt finish is useful. Acetal will hold a decent cut thread. Please bear in mind that the matt finish isn't the deadest black in optical terms. In the tv

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread andy pugh
On 23 February 2015 at 22:26, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The flat black used in optics where the real estate for the absorber is not available still reflects 8 to 10% of the light that hits it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vantablack -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 23 February 2015 05:36:50 pm andy pugh wrote: On 23 February 2015 at 22:26, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: The flat black used in optics where the real estate for the absorber is not available still reflects 8 to 10% of the light that hits it.

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Urethane

2015-02-23 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 02/23/2015 02:26 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday, February 23, 2015 03:29:26 PM Marcus Bowman wrote: I guess you will need a matt black finish, so the tip about producing a matt finish is useful. Acetal will hold a decent cut thread. Please bear in mind that the matt finish isn't the