Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-21 Thread N
> > On 21 Jan 2020, at 18:30, Jon Elson wrote: > > > > The black-red winding has huge inductance -- HALF a Henry! > > It is a 3W 120V motor. It’s going to eat milliamperes. Maybe not to few, I would expect low efficiency. ___ Emc-users mailing

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-21 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 21 Jan 2020, at 18:30, Jon Elson wrote: > > The black-red winding has huge inductance -- HALF a Henry! It is a 3W 120V motor. It’s going to eat milliamperes. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/21/2020 07:23 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: As a first try, I'd put the 4mfd cap in series with the black-red coil, but I'd also bring it up with a powerstat in case I'm wrong. If it runs weak and hot, move the cap to the other winding. Which ever runs cooler and with more torque is correct.

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 January 2020 08:08:58 grumpy--- via Emc-users wrote: > On Tue, 21 Jan 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: > > On Tuesday 21 January 2020 00:46:46 Roland Jollivet wrote: > >> You can see the yellow wire bound with the others in the first pic. > >> I'm sure it's a coil wire. > >> Usually the

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-21 Thread grumpy--- via Emc-users
On Tue, 21 Jan 2020, Gene Heskett wrote: On Tuesday 21 January 2020 00:46:46 Roland Jollivet wrote: You can see the yellow wire bound with the others in the first pic. I'm sure it's a coil wire. Usually the frame wire is bolted to the ... frame. You should measure the resistance of the two

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 21 January 2020 00:46:46 Roland Jollivet wrote: > You can see the yellow wire bound with the others in the first pic. > I'm sure it's a coil wire. > Usually the frame wire is bolted to the ... frame. > > You should measure the resistance of the two coils. They're quite > different. I'm

[Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Roland Jollivet
You can see the yellow wire bound with the others in the first pic. I'm sure it's a coil wire. Usually the frame wire is bolted to the ... frame. You should measure the resistance of the two coils. They're quite different. I'm not sure what the rule of thumb is on which is the start winding, but

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Peter Blodow
But this motor comes from Japan and, not knowing anything else, might very well be designed for the European market. Peter Am 20.01.2020 um 19:31 schrieb Dr. Andreas O. Lindner: Hello, green-yellow is protected ground only in central Europe. In US it is a bare wire ! Just my 2 cents, Andreas

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread grumpy--- via Emc-users
On Mon, 20 Jan 2020, Peter Blodow wrote: Isn't there something written on the green-yellow wire? In any case: don't connect any power to this wire, its PROTECTIVE GROUND! i can not see any writing on the yellow wire my old vom shows none of the wires are connected to the frame

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 20 January 2020 13:31:40 Dr. Andreas O. Lindner wrote: > Hello, green-yellow is protected ground only in central Europe. In US > it is a bare wire ! > But only in rigid wireing in conduit. In flexible "IEC" line cords, blue or green depending on its age and country sourced from. > Just

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Dr. Andreas O. Lindner
Hello, green-yellow is protected ground only in central Europe. In US it is a bare wire ! Just my 2 cents, Andreas > Am 20.01.2020 um 18:48 schrieb Peter Blodow : > > Isn't there something written on the green-yellow wire? In any case: don't > connect any power to this wire, its PROTECTIVE

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Peter Blodow
Isn't there something written on the green-yellow wire? In any case: don't connect any power to this wire, its PROTECTIVE GROUND! Peter Am 20.01.2020 um 18:21 schrieb grumpy--- via Emc-users: thanks men got it neutral to black and blue one side of capacitor to red other side of capacitor to

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread grumpy--- via Emc-users
thanks men got it neutral to black and blue one side of capacitor to red other side of capacitor to yellow connect line to red or yellow ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/20/2020 08:36 AM, grumpy--- via Emc-users wrote: a friend gave me this gear motor he knows nothing about it and i can not find a wiring diagram i have confirmed with an ohm meter that the yellow and blue wires are connected and the red and black wires are connected Yes, you need a 4 uF

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Gene Heskett
.sourceforge.net] Sent: Monday, January 20, > > 2020 9:36 AM > > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > Cc: gru...@mailfence.com > > Subject: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring > > > > a friend gave me this gear motor > > he knows nothing about it an

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Peter Blodow
Hello, this motor is a three phase induction motor where the third is supplied by a phase shifter condenser. This makes a unsymmetrical revolving magnetic field with 90 + 90 + 120 degres phase angle. This unsymmetry reduces efficiency, but no three phase suply is needed. It seems to be made

Re: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring

2020-01-20 Thread Ken Strauss
anuary 20, 2020 9:36 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Cc: gru...@mailfence.com > Subject: [Emc-users] OT - simple motor wiring > > a friend gave me this gear motor > he knows nothing about it and i can not find a wiring diagram i have > confirmed with an ohm meter