Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-12 Thread Rob Jansen
Aram, measuring torque on an AC servos is definitely possible. It is not as simple as measuring current but this does give some feedback. I don't think that the current used by the servo drivers is a measure but you try Stan's setup that way. There are servo drivers with force-feedback but I an

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-12 Thread amtb
Hi I think mechanical measure can not be use because limits of on torque will be digital and it should be part of NC program that can be program. That digital limits will be part of program and where ever cutting tool start having problem with cutting material and as a result of which pressure of a

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-11 Thread Jim Coleman
what about a spring coupler and 2 encoders? and do current measurements while exerting known levels of torque, make a chart so you know how much current = how much torque, use current monitoring... isolated ADC across shunt resistors for each phase of each motor be it AC or DC. It'd jsut be quit

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-11 Thread Geoff
On Tuesday 12 February 2008 04:55, W. Jacobs wrote: > aram, > It would be easier to measure current to the motor as this would be what > creates the torque. Current measurement is easy. > If you want to truly measure the torque, it is done either with a strain > gauge on the shaft or with a spring

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 February 2008, Dave Engvall wrote: >Spindle load is certainly one way to do it. Whether you do spindle >load or force your cam is going to have to >do a good job of keeping the cutter load constant or you will end up >setting the trip too high to do much good. >The same is true in try

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-11 Thread W. Jacobs
aram, It would be easier to measure current to the motor as this would be what creates the torque. Current measurement is easy. If you want to truly measure the torque, it is done either with a strain gauge on the shaft or with a spring coupled drive and measure the deflection of the spring. E

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-11 Thread Dave Engvall
Spindle load is certainly one way to do it. Whether you do spindle load or force your cam is going to have to do a good job of keeping the cutter load constant or you will end up setting the trip too high to do much good. The same is true in trying to control such things by setting following

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 11 February 2008, Dave Engvall wrote: >IIRC - some years ago there was some talk about limiting force on >each axis or the x,y vector. >I don't think it is easy to do but something to think about. I have >no idea how much difference there >is between the forces for a 'good' cutter and a

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-10 Thread Dave Engvall
IIRC - some years ago there was some talk about limiting force on each axis or the x,y vector. I don't think it is easy to do but something to think about. I have no idea how much difference there is between the forces for a 'good' cutter and a cutter on the edge of going bad. Something for

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-10 Thread Stan Blosser
I'm not an expert on AC servos (or servos at all for that matter) but I suppose the same tecnique could be used to measure torque on nearly any motor, but keep in mind it is an offline process. This is not something done directly by EMC or the motor controller. The setup for my measurements:

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-10 Thread amtb
Hi Can you measure torque on AC servo motor? Can I put that if torque exceed some certain level STOP machine or go to feed hold mode. It is very important because torque can directly show condition of cutter. If can stop machine when torque start increase I may or better will prevent break of cutte

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-10 Thread Stan Blosser
Doh! Of course, a link to my site would help: http://www.theblossers.net/index.php?section=15 Stan Blosser wrote: > I just posted a blog article on my site regarding my recent stepper > torque measurement project. Not directly relating to EMC, but I felt > it relevant enough to share here. :-

[Emc-users] Stepper torque measurement article

2008-02-10 Thread Stan Blosser
I just posted a blog article on my site regarding my recent stepper torque measurement project. Not directly relating to EMC, but I felt it relevant enough to share here. :-) - This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft