Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
Apply spinach to the X axis and there will be carnage? On Wednesday, February 7, 2018, 12:51:16 PM MST, wrote: Thanks Chris…for both the information and one of the most apropos example of autocorrect I have ever seen. "The spinach is turning in x-direction the carnage in z” I think th

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 07 February 2018 16:43:38 andy pugh wrote: > On 7 February 2018 at 20:02, John Kasunich wrote: > > LinuxCNC will NOT reduce the spindle speed based on the limits of > > your Z axis. > > That is true currently. But might not always be so, there is a > proposal to either warn or reduc

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread tom-emc
A warning would be nice. A warning with option to continue with spindle slowed would be a bonus. -Tom > On Feb 7, 2018, at 4:43 PM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 7 February 2018 at 20:02, John Kasunich wrote: > >> >> LinuxCNC will NOT reduce the spindle speed based on the limits of your Z >> axi

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread andy pugh
On 7 February 2018 at 20:02, John Kasunich wrote: > > LinuxCNC will NOT reduce the spindle speed based on the limits of your Z > axis. That is true currently. But might not always be so, there is a proposal to either warn or reduce the spindle speed. https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread tom-emc
My experience corroborates Peter and John’s descriptions. I tried cutting an SFM that was above the capability of the Z-axis to move, just for fun. Rather than a thread, I essentially got a bored out cylinder with some thread-like lines as a finish. So it doesn’t slow the spindle to the axi

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread John Kasunich
On Wed, Feb 7, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > The G33 says to do a synchronized move. This is physically impossible. > The Z axis has some limit on it's ability to go from zero speed to the > commanded speed. So the controller is reducing the spindle speed so as to > match the abi

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Wed, 7 Feb 2018, Chris Albertson wrote: Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 11:35:03 -0800 From: Chris Albertson Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33 The G33 says

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread tom-emc
Thanks Chris…for both the information and one of the most apropos example of autocorrect I have ever seen. "The spinach is turning in x-direction the carnage in z” I think this will be my new signature line ;-) -Tom > On Feb 7, 2018, at 2:35 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > > The G33 says to do

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-07 Thread Chris Albertson
The G33 says to do a synchronized move. This is physically impossible. The Z axis has some limit on it's ability to go from zero speed to the commanded speed. So the controller is reducing the spindle speed so as to match the ability of the z-axis motor. ALL multi-axis moves are this way. Yo

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 06 February 2018 10:20:49 tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: > As I replied to Andy, spindle-at-speed is just coming from > vfd-at-speed in custom.hal. net gs2-at-speed motion.spindle-at-speed > <= spindle-vfd.at -speed > Nothing at the link. And my vfd on the sheldon has an

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-06 Thread tom-emc
> On Feb 6, 2018, at 10:28 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > On 6 February 2018 at 15:20, wrote: >> >> As I replied to Andy, spindle-at-speed is just coming from vfd-at-speed in >> custom.hal. >> net gs2-at-speed motion.spindle-at-speed <= spindle-vfd.at-speed > > That should work, as long as the spin

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 February 2018 at 15:20, wrote: > > As I replied to Andy, spindle-at-speed is just coming from vfd-at-speed in > custom.hal. > net gs2-at-speed motion.spindle-at-speed <= spindle-vfd.at-speed That should work, as long as the spindle-vfd component at-speed output works correctly (perhaps it d

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-06 Thread tom-emc
As I replied to Andy, spindle-at-speed is just coming from vfd-at-speed in custom.hal. net gs2-at-speed motion.spindle-at-speed <= spindle-vfd.at -speed I am not using wcomp or near component as suggested in the manual: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/spindle.html

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 February 2018 21:20:11 Gene Heskett wrote: > On Sunday 04 February 2018 18:50:50 tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: > > That is a good question, and one we have recently asked ourselves. > > In fact we changed our threading routine to fix the RPM because at > > least then the spindle is not const

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 February 2018 18:50:50 tom-...@bgp.nu wrote: > That is a good question, and one we have recently asked ourselves. In > fact we changed our threading routine to fix the RPM because at least > then the spindle is not constantly accelerating and decelerating. > But, to be honest, CSS s

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-04 Thread andy pugh
On 4 February 2018 at 23:50, wrote: > That is a good question, and one we have recently asked ourselves. It might be more useful to answer it than ask it :-) -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-04 Thread tom-emc
That is a good question, and one we have recently asked ourselves. In fact we changed our threading routine to fix the RPM because at least then the spindle is not constantly accelerating and decelerating. But, to be honest, CSS should work fine, all it does it change the spindle speed for a g

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-04 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 04 February 2018 13:52:33 andy pugh wrote: > On 30 January 2018 at 22:42, wrote: > > We read that G33 will wait for spindle-at-speed before looking for > > the index pulse. But our spindle-at-speed signal seems to be high > > during the full cycle once the spindle speeds up the first

Re: [Emc-users] CSS and spindle-at-speed during a G33

2018-02-04 Thread andy pugh
On 30 January 2018 at 22:42, wrote: > We read that G33 will wait for spindle-at-speed before looking for the > index pulse. But our spindle-at-speed signal seems to be high during the > full cycle once the spindle speeds up the first time. How is your spindle-at-speed signal calculated? --