Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-30 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-03-28 5:30 GMT+02:00 Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com: On 3/27/2015 10:44 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 27 March 2015 11:08:18 Bruce Layne wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing your newly converted CNC lathe. I'd name her Natasha. FWIW, I'd like to see the conversion process in

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-28 Thread richshoop
adjusted/tweaked. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com -- Message: 3 Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2015 21:10:23 -0600 From: Gregg Eshelman g_ala...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 27 March 2015 23:30:50 Gregg Eshelman wrote: On 3/27/2015 10:44 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 27 March 2015 11:08:18 Bruce Layne wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing your newly converted CNC lathe. I'd name her Natasha. FWIW, I'd like to see the conversion process in

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 14:27, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Centre-lathe-made-by-Stankoimport-Russian-built-/191526503823 I forgot to ask the question... Does anyone have any experience of these or other Russian lathes? -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 27 Mar 2015, at 14:27, andy pugh wrote: I have long been disatisfied with my CNC-converted Chinese lathe. It is a cheap copy of the Emco Compact 8 (not a paragon of over-built perfection) stretched to 9 centre height and 1000mm bed length. Then a milling machine was bolted to the back to

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Bruce Layne
I was thinking of getting a new Grizzly G0602 lathe and converting it to CNC, but a friend talked me into getting an old Clausing lathe as the basis for my CNC conversion instead. For about the same money, I got a much more solid lathe. It was good advice. The lathe you're considering looks

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 03/27/2015 09:49 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 27 March 2015 11:59:52 andy pugh wrote: On 27 March 2015 at 14:27, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: 2-speed geared head + something in the base which can be replaced by a VFD (possibly). Though this would mean removing the

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 17:49, Viesturs Lācis viesturs.la...@gmail.com wrote: One thing to pay attention to is the width of the slide surfaces on slides - russians made them pretty narrow, so the contact area is smaller and it wears out quicker The slides are relatively huge compared to the CCL,

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread John Thornton
Did you finish this project? JT On 3/27/2015 12:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/ -- Dive into the World of Parallel Programming The Go Parallel Website, sponsored by Intel and

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-03-27 16:47 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Centre-lathe-made-by-Stankoimport-Russian-built-/191526503823 I forgot to ask the question... Does anyone have any experience of these or other Russian lathes? Well, in my part of world western-made machine

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 16:49, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: Though this would mean removing the preselector gearbox. Which would be slightly sad. Do you mean the headstock backgear selector? No. The angled dial at knee-level allows you to select a gear when the spindle is running, but it

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 17:16, Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com wrote: The plan is to place the Z axis motor and pulleys where the threading gearbox was (yellow area at the end of the leadscrew): http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/1-1a.jpg If you would like the opportunity to

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 27 March 2015 11:08:18 Bruce Layne wrote: I was thinking of getting a new Grizzly G0602 lathe and converting it to CNC, but a friend talked me into getting an old Clausing lathe as the basis for my CNC conversion instead. For about the same money, I got a much more solid lathe.

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 27 March 2015 11:59:52 andy pugh wrote: On 27 March 2015 at 14:27, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: 2-speed geared head + something in the base which can be replaced by a VFD (possibly). Though this would mean removing the preselector gearbox. Which would be slightly sad.

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread John Alexander Stewart
My Emco Compact-8s have the 3 M8 nuts to hold chucks on to the flange - it does not have the rotating collar. I find it fine - I don't change chucks that often (like, the ER-25 collet adapter has been on there for a year). Changing is pretty quick, but there is an art to getting the nuts threaded

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Andrew
Hello Andy, This is a pretty decent lathe, I'll find you some info tonight. 27 бер. 2015 16:28, користувач andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com написав: I have long been disatisfied with my CNC-converted Chinese lathe. It is a cheap copy of the Emco Compact 8 (not a paragon of over-built perfection)

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 27 March 2015 10:59:10 Marcus Bowman wrote: On 27 Mar 2015, at 14:27, andy pugh wrote: I have long been disatisfied with my CNC-converted Chinese lathe. It is a cheap copy of the Emco Compact 8 (not a paragon of over-built perfection) stretched to 9 centre height and 1000mm bed

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread sam sokolik
If you're planning to convert it to cnc - The only thing you really have to worry about for parts are the spindle bearings/gearbox.. (if you can live with the chuck mounting design) I have seen what you can fabricate in your shop... I really don't think you have to worry about anything.. sam

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 16:34, Gene Heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: That to me wouldn't be a huge concern, making parts that are generally made of pure unobtainium is supposed to be our specialty. Both my mill and my lathe have made on the premises parts in them. And there is probably no

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Dave Caroline
Looks like a nice casting to start a project from. I had rear nuts on the Hobbymat MD65, utter pain. Other thing to think about collets and taper, I usually use cheap morse taper collets but that often gives problems for long stuff. The good side was selling off the junk parts I no longer wanted

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread John Thornton
On my Samson lathe I leave the 4 jaw in all the time, when I want to do work with the 5C collets I put a collet closer in the 4 jaw. I find I can center a part in a few seconds with my tool post mounted indicator. I use a collet closer like this one:

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 14:27, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: 2-speed geared head + something in the base which can be replaced by a VFD (possibly). Though this would mean removing the preselector gearbox. Which would be slightly sad. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it.

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Andrew
2015-03-27 20:36 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=bodge...@gmail.com : On 27 March 2015 at 18:23, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=pkm...@gmail.com wrote: There's a latter CNC variant of this

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 18:23, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: You can look through this topic for more details (at least photos) http://www.cnc-club.ru/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3t=3566 If these are a popular retrofit candidate in points East of here, I am wondering if there might be people willing to

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Gene Heskett
On Friday 27 March 2015 14:36:43 andy pugh wrote: On 27 March 2015 at 18:23, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: There's a latter CNC variant of this lathe. Just ready for CNC retrofitting. Same guys doing it (still in the process) https://www.flickr.com/photos/77436964@N02/15709534684/ Yes,

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Andrew
2015-03-27 16:27 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: I have long been disatisfied with my CNC-converted Chinese lathe. It is a cheap copy of the Emco Compact 8 (not a paragon of over-built perfection) stretched to 9 centre height and 1000mm bed length. Then a milling machine was bolted to

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Kirk Wallace
On 03/27/2015 10:40 AM, John Thornton wrote: Did you finish this project? JT On 3/27/2015 12:16 PM, Kirk Wallace wrote: http://www.wallacecompany.com/cnc_lathe/ I haven't wanted to rush this project, so it has been pretty much as seen on the website for the last nine years. I put the

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Pete Matos
That is one of the sexiest things I have ever seen! LOL What kinda lathe is that? Pete On Fri, Mar 27, 2015 at 2:36 PM, andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: On 27 March 2015 at 18:23, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: There's a latter CNC variant of this lathe. Just ready for CNC

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2015-03-27 19:56 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: The slides are relatively huge compared to the CCL, and the saddle is at least 3 x wider too Bastards made good machines for export, but sold crap for domestic use... Viesturs

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 18:23, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: There's a latter CNC variant of this lathe. Just ready for CNC retrofitting. Same guys doing it (still in the process) https://www.flickr.com/photos/77436964@N02/15709534684/ Yes, one of those would be rather ideal. Fascinating to see

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Andrew
2015-03-27 22:01 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=bodge...@gmail.com : On 27 March 2015 at 18:23, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=pkm...@gmail.com wrote: You can look through this topic for

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
Well, I put in a £1000 offer for the lathe, as it isn't quite right for me as far as timing goes (as in, the CCL is still in the space the CCCP lathe could be ) Maybe I can do a tour of Communist lathe producers :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Andrew
2015-03-27 23:47 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?view=cmfs=1tf=1to=bodge...@gmail.com : Well, I put in a £1000 offer for the lathe, Reasonable offer. as it isn't quite right for me as far as timing goes (as in, the CCL is still in the space the

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread andy pugh
On 27 March 2015 at 22:10, Andrew pkm...@gmail.com wrote: CCL goes for Chinese CNC Lathe, or I've missed something? ) Cheap Chinese Lathe :-) Maybe I can do a tour of Communist lathe producers :-) I guess there are very few of them remain. Specifically, the factory that produced this lathe

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Andrew
2015-03-28 0:22 GMT+02:00 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: CCL goes for Chinese CNC Lathe, or I've missed something? ) Cheap Chinese Lathe :-) Oh, I was close! That's a shame. I would have thought that they were actually in quite a good position to compete in the world markeplace. (They had

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Peter Blodow
Andy, the machine resembles my Graziano SAG12 in some features. Russians are known for copying practical things from elsewhere and especially for producing machines that can be repaired in any place of the world by simple means. How is the gear shift accomplished, mechanical or by electric

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 3/27/2015 9:08 AM, Bruce Layne wrote: In communist Russia, lathe turns YOU on! I'm looking forward to seeing your newly converted CNC lathe. I'd name her Natasha. But then what is Boris? --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. http://www.avast.com

Re: [Emc-users] Possible New Lathe

2015-03-27 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 3/27/2015 10:44 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: On Friday 27 March 2015 11:08:18 Bruce Layne wrote: I'm looking forward to seeing your newly converted CNC lathe. I'd name her Natasha. FWIW, I'd like to see the conversion process in pictures myself. Tee hee. I can see it now, a polished brass