Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-17 Thread Chris Albertson
> On Jul 17, 2025, at 10:35 AM, gene heskett wrote: >> > I hope I live to see it do that Chris. There appears to be 2 problems, the > first being how to spec the targets with sufficient accuracy which it didn't > do in that demo and how to do that on a step and repeat basis. >> _ Clasic CNCi

Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-17 Thread gene heskett
On 7/17/25 13:04, Chris Albertson wrote: Yes. And now with the BLDC servo motors, they run a relatively low gear ratio of maybe about 8:1, so that when Electric-Atlas lands the motors are back driven and create back EMF.Kind of the same thing. It’s intentional, it makes the joints compli

Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-17 Thread Chris Albertson
Yes. And now with the BLDC servo motors, they run a relatively low gear ratio of maybe about 8:1, so that when Electric-Atlas lands the motors are back driven and create back EMF.Kind of the same thing. It’s intentional, it makes the joints compliant. Back to machine tools…. How long wil

Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-16 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
The new Atlas robots are all electric VS the old series that were electro-hydraulic. As a "retirement" thing, Boston Dynamics released a video compilation of Atlas' robots worst fails, including many burst hydraulic hoses that they'd never shown before. Apparently a large part of designing all t

Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-16 Thread gene heskett
On 7/16/25 12:23, Chris Albertson wrote: In the old days there were huge differences in how they were controlled. But today we use microcontrollers for everything.SO there is some convergence but still I think we can see differences in the physical motors 1) Stepper is just a BLDC motor

Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-16 Thread Chris Albertson
Actualy for this they use motion capture from a human dancer to collect “target points.” The points are (x,y,z, time). Then, of course, the robot does not have the same mass distribution as a human and would fall down if it exactly copied the human’s moves. So they use an “MPC” controller.

Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-16 Thread Nicklas SB Karlsson
> ... > How would you like to write the “g-code” for this machine (28 axes). > https://youtu.be/I44_zbEwz_w If you do the kinematics and inverser kinetamtics I would prefer the usual g-code with six degree of freedom. Compared to ordinary industrial robot bolted in floor it would have have an ad

Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-16 Thread Stuart Stevenson
We had to sign DOD forms to allow a 15MB control in the shop. Something about a control for nuclear subs. It is a '28' axis control. I could see using the center of gravity with an orthogonal cartesian coordinate system. Then calculating the limb positions for each pose. Gcode - nah On Wed,

Re: [Emc-users] stepper/servo

2025-07-16 Thread Chris Albertson
In the old days there were huge differences in how they were controlled. But today we use microcontrollers for everything.SO there is some convergence but still I think we can see differences in the physical motors 1) Stepper is just a BLDC motor is “dozens” of poles and perhaps two or thre