Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Dean Hedin wrote: My guess is that with that, you could cut every groove the the checkering file will finish at 24 tpi if you wanted to go that fine, No Gene, can't do it. Lord knows I've tried. Too much tear out occurs even with the tiniest of bits. The net result

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-03-28 Thread Anders Wallin
I need to start cnc'ing metal. Anders, how long (machine time) did it take to cut the mould in the first picture? Also, were there tool changes used, i.e., roughing, finishing? We didn't have ER25-chucks/collets when we did that mould, so the whole mould is run with one tool, a flat 6mm

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Dale wrote: Hi Dean, Gene, This is coming from a Toolmaker and I also make guitars. If it were metal I'd say yes all but the final finish could be done on the machine. Knowing wood the way I do I have to say Dean is right about the tearout. As a toolmaker and

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-03-28 Thread Roland
At 10:35 AM 28/03/2007 -0400, you wrote: over half an hour per pass though. MCS is selling a little air grinder rated at 70k rpms, I wonder how that might work mounted on the side of the head on my micromill for something like that? Has anyone here attempted something along those lines?

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-03-28 Thread Dale
I know that noise and the finish. On much bigger and more rigid machines and even using bigger tools It's the same problem. Since you have limitations with toolholders and the spindle itself, the deeper the pocket gets the longer the tool/toolholder gets. The cutters themselves flex enough by

[Emc-users] LPT address on EMC2

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
I lost my hard drive yesterday, it had BDI EMC running on it. I downloaded EMC2 Live and have it running on the computer. I have a LPT card installed that I use because my factory port is noisy. I am running stepper motors on a bridgeport, I have chosen the standard stepper set up in inch mode

Re: [Emc-users] LPT address on EMC2

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
Thanks Andy Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:59:17PM -0500, Andy Holcomb wrote: Remind me again how to find the address of the lpt ports. Where do I make this change of address? http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?NetMos

Re: [Emc-users] LPT address on EMC2

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
Okay, I have tried all of the values I get from the lspci command and non of them work; but, the factory port at 378 does work. the values I got were dc00 d800 d400 d000 cc00 c800 From what I remember on emc1 I had to use d000 Andy Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 12:59:17PM

[Emc-users] Another Look at SPI

2007-03-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
I am looking at taking another stab at using SPI with EMC. Originally, I wanted to port the Rutex Windows driver and utilities to Linux. But for now, I need to take baby steps towards that goal. I think controlling a spindle VFD (0 to +10V) with a MAX5312 ADC on the parallel port might be doable.

Re: [Emc-users] Another Look at SPI

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: I am looking at taking another stab at using SPI with EMC. Originally, I wanted to port the Rutex Windows driver and utilities to Linux. But for now, I need to take baby steps towards that goal. I think controlling a spindle VFD (0 to +10V) with a MAX5312 ADC on the

[Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
On EMC1, I was running Axis speeds of more than 120ipm, I can't get EMC 2 past around 60. I am running a 1.6 ghz computer. I don't know how much memory, will memory cause this or is it the computer? Andy - Take Surveys.

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Sam Sokolik
Take a look at this http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration sam - Original Message - From: Andy Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 3:11 PM Subject: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: On EMC1, I was running Axis speeds of more than 120ipm, I can't get EMC 2 past around 60. I am running a 1.6 ghz computer. I don't know how much memory, will memory cause this or is it the computer? Memory is unlikely to be the problem. Its hard

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
Andy Holcomb wrote: John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: On EMC1, I was running Axis speeds of more than 120ipm, I can't get EMC 2 past around 60. I am running a 1.6 ghz computer. Steppers or servos? Steppers What step frequency does your machine need to get 120ipm? You didn't

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
Replying to myself: John Kasunich wrote: Do you have adequate stepgen headroom? The following snippet is from the sample config stepper_inch.ini: MAX_VELOCITY = 1.2 # NOTE: the step generator module applies its own limits to # acceleration and velocity. We have

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
ovl max got as high as15687 (I cant remember the number, this is close) Andy Sam Sokolik wrote: Take a look at this http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration sam - Original Message - From: Andy Holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced Machine

Re: [Emc-users] Another Look at SPI

2007-03-28 Thread Javid Butler
Were there other SPI devices you wanted to use with this, or is the goal just a 0-10V output? There are some good parallel single and multi-channel DACs out there that might be easier to interface than bit-banging the port, depending on the resolution you need. I think Maxim has some, and I

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: On EMC1, I was running Axis speeds of more than 120ipm, I can't get EMC 2 past around 60. I am running a 1.6 ghz computer. Steppers or servos? Steppers What step frequency does your machine need to get

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Chris Radek
On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:56:26PM -0500, Andy Holcomb wrote: Latest Live version You can find the EMC version number in the Help/About window. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
Emc2 2.1.0 Andy Chris Radek wrote: On Wed, Mar 28, 2007 at 03:56:26PM -0500, Andy Holcomb wrote: Latest Live version You can find the EMC version number in the Help/About window. - Take Surveys. Earn Cash.

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
Okay I think I have it, It works better after doing both the velocity and the accel. Question, when I was running EMC 1, I would have problem with following errors if I went above 100% on over speed of the axises while running a program, what causes this and how can I fix it? Can I test this

[Emc-users] Hard disk space

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
How much HD space is required to install the live version? Andy - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to share your opinions on IT business

Re: [Emc-users] Another Look at SPI

2007-03-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 14:52 -0600, Javid Butler wrote: Were there other SPI devices you wanted to use with this, or is the goal just a 0-10V output? I just wanted a simple SPI device to talk to, but also have something useful when my lathe grows up. There are some good parallel single and

Re: [Emc-users] Another Look at SPI

2007-03-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
Caution: Stupid Question Ahead: In a quick look, I don't have an ...emc2/src directory. I am using a Ubuntu (2.6.12-magma) pre-installed with EMC2 (2.1.1) install shell script install. I guess I need a development or source install? (Please don't give me anything sharp, like a soldering iron.)

Re: [Emc-users] Another Look at SPI

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: Caution: Stupid Question Ahead: In a quick look, I don't have an ...emc2/src directory. I am using a Ubuntu (2.6.12-magma) pre-installed with EMC2 (2.1.1) install shell script install. I guess I need a development or source install? (Please don't give me anything sharp,

Re: [Emc-users] Hard disk space

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
Andy Holcomb wrote: How much HD space is required to install the live version? Three gigs or so... Regards, John Kasunich - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
Andy Holcomb wrote: John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: On EMC1, I was running Axis speeds of more than 120ipm, I can't get EMC 2 past around 60. I am running a 1.6 ghz computer. Steppers or servos? Steppers What step frequency does your

Re: [Emc-users] Another Look at SPI

2007-03-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
Thanks John. I have been avoiding CVS but I think I can figure it out. I believe there have been posts in the recent past with CVS information. Kirk Wallace On Wed, 2007-03-28 at 19:01 -0400, John Kasunich wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: Caution: Stupid Question Ahead: In a quick look, I

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread Andy Holcomb
I lied 8000 steps per inch (8000*120)/60 = 16000 where does that put me for a period? Andy John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: John Kasunich wrote: Andy Holcomb wrote: On EMC1, I was running Axis

Re: [Emc-users] Another Look at SPI

2007-03-28 Thread Jeff Epler
http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?Installing_EMC2#On_Ubuntu_5_10_and_6_06_from_source Jeff - Take Surveys. Earn Cash. Influence the Future of IT Join SourceForge.net's Techsay panel and you'll get the chance to

Re: [Emc-users] tiny bits..

2007-03-28 Thread Dean Hedin
Gene, I definitely agree if I could spin the bits faster I could reduce tear out. The only thing that I though might work (to get better rpm's with tiny bits) is to use one of those brushless DC RC airplane motors. Some of them run up to 55-60k rpm. I think I might try this. Running a

Re: [Emc-users] Joypad problem with version 2.1.4

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
kirk wrote: John, Thanks for all the help. The scaling factors did the trick. On the previous version of EMC 2.1.3 I had to increase the counts per second just to get the thing to move. This new version works considerably better. There is much better control over the velocity. Good

Re: [Emc-users] Axis speed slower on Emc2 than Emc1

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
Andy Holcomb wrote: I lied 8000 steps per inch (8000*120)/60 = 16000 where does that put me for a period? Andy At the beginning of this thread, Sam posted this link: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration I'd recommend reading it - it tells you how

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Roland wrote: At 10:35 AM 28/03/2007 -0400, you wrote: over half an hour per pass though. MCS is selling a little air grinder rated at 70k rpms, I wonder how that might work mounted on the side of the head on my micromill for something like that? Has anyone here

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-03-28 Thread John Kasunich
Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Roland wrote: At 10:35 AM 28/03/2007 -0400, you wrote: over half an hour per pass though. MCS is selling a little air grinder rated at 70k rpms, we removed the milling head entirely and mounted a Pferd air-tool. I wasn't aware the air

Re: [Emc-users] tiny bits..

2007-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Thursday 29 March 2007, Dean Hedin wrote: Gene, I definitely agree if I could spin the bits faster I could reduce tear out. The only thing that I though might work (to get better rpm's with tiny bits) is to use one of those brushless DC RC airplane motors. Some of them run up to 55-60k

Re: [Emc-users] Show us your pics of unobtanium!

2007-03-28 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 28 March 2007, John Kasunich wrote: Gene Heskett wrote: On Wednesday 28 March 2007, Roland wrote: At 10:35 AM 28/03/2007 -0400, you wrote: over half an hour per pass though. MCS is selling a little air grinder rated at 70k rpms, we removed the milling head entirely and mounted

Re: [Emc-users] tiny bits..

2007-03-28 Thread Javid Butler
If you have the money for them, Micromo makes some excellent motors that have bearings rated for the higher speeds. Not sure how much torque you need, but they might have something. http://www.micromo.com Javid - Original Message - From: Dean Hedin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Enhanced