Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread John Dammeyer
A friend of mine has run hydraulics that way. What you say makes a lot of sense for the model trains too. My little PWM DC speed controller was set above 20kHz to prevent audible noise. But that's a lot different from 60Hz that would, as you say, introduce vibration to overcome static

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
This idea is still in use today with proportional hydraulic valves; you use a PWM frequency that is low enough to induce a slight continuous vibration in the valve, to overcome stiction. > On Apr 10, 2022, at 6:49 PM, Chris Albertson > wrote: > > I'd say this thing was a vibrator with a DC

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread Mark
Beat me to it.  I was just about to say the exact same thing. What comes around goes around. Mark On 4/10/22 05:28, Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users wrote: In other words the person who designed that created a pulse width modulation motor controller without calling it that. On Saturday, April

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
In other words the person who designed that created a pulse width modulation motor controller without calling it that. On Saturday, April 9, 2022, 08:18:17 PM MDT, John Dammeyer wrote: Really nothing to do with LCNC or even automation.  I've been cleaning out old shelves and I have piles

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread dave engvall
Clearly OT! Indeed electronics have   come a long ways since then. I still have my Dad's 200 w-sec strobe. Oil filled caps from Edmund Salvage dumped to the flash tube with a thrytron. Later vintage an electronic ignition, nice toroid 6 v to 400 v converter and a decent SCR for my   PV544

Re: [Emc-users] Can't compile MODBUS VFD in 2.8.2

2022-04-10 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 10 Apr 2022 at 18:29, Danny Miller wrote: > > Nothing to unplug- it's a built-in RS232 DB9. Nothing enumerates across it. https://superuser.com/questions/131044/how-do-i-know-which-dev-ttys-is-my-serial-port suggests "cat /proc/tty/driver/serial" will tell you which ttyS* has hardware

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread Mark Johnsen
That brings back memories. The fun of being at Grandma and Grandpa's was the Popular Mechanics and Popular Science magazines I could page thru when visiting. I remember all the pages in the back of the magazine where people were trying to sell things, I always wanted a VW Bug replica car

Re: [Emc-users] Because I can't seem to finish anything... Nebel lathe conversion.

2022-04-10 Thread Mark Johnsen
Cool! On a side note, I just finished listening to Walter Isaacson's biography on Leonardo Da Vinci and wanted to inform you that you're in good company because he had serious issues finishing projects. Of course, humanity got the worse end of that by him not publishing his work. But, when you

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread John Dammeyer
This one page showing the expected waveform was too big to attach so I've put it here as a JPG: http://www.autoartisans.com/MotorDrives/PulsePower3.jpg I agree it's a PWM motor controller but without a filter on the output. (well actually the motor inductance acts as a filter of course)

Re: [Emc-users] Can't compile MODBUS VFD in 2.8.2

2022-04-10 Thread Danny Miller
Nothing to unplug- it's a built-in RS232 DB9.  Nothing enumerates across it. I'm baffled where to go.  I see there's a port /ttyS0 from the command line. Launching LinuxCNC from the command line shows text warnings about Modbus timing out.  It's just not communicating.  I played with the

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread John Dammeyer
In keeping with the off topic theme and since you mentioned CD ignition... http://www.autoartisans.com/images/igf200.jpg This one is CD ignition (with that 350V step up) for one coil per cylinder and multi-point sequential fuel injection for Honda VTEC 1500CC engines used in homebuilt aircraft

Re: [Emc-users] Can't compile MODBUS VFD in 2.8.2

2022-04-10 Thread Ralph Stirling
Plug in a loop back plug (pins 2 and 3 connected) and run any terminal emulator ("screen", and Arduino IDE serial monitor are two convenient ones available on Linux) to see if you get back what you type. That will verify the port works and that you are addressing the correct one. Then check if

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread John Figie
I remember a similar model railroad throttle for DC trains published in Model Railroader Magazine called the TAT IV. I was just a kid and tried building one. Back then you could make thing for less than what they cost assembled. My first build was a total failure. A second attempt using a kit that

Re: [Emc-users] Controlling DC motors.

2022-04-10 Thread Chris Albertson
In robotics, DC motors are always the hardest to control at the slowest speeds.The root of the problem applies to model trains too. The coefficient of friction is different for static friction than for moving friction.So the sleeve bearing in a motor takes a certain torque to break free,