Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread cogoman
Brainstorming, but not coming up with what you asked for. I still think one of these ideas might help, so here they are. I pictured using a key-hole tool to make the hole in the top surface of the wood about 5.8mm for a 6mm ball, then 6mm from about .2mm below the surface down to 3.2mm belo

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Greg Bernard
Now that's really cool, Kirk! Makes me wonder if LinuxCNC could be integrated with a MIDI program to produce a music machine?   +++ "Anyone who believes exponential growth can go on forever in a finite world is either a

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Joseph Chiu
How about masking the substrate with protective film before cutting the holes, and then bulk apply the glue (spray on, dipping tray, brush on, etc.)? Apply balls, then press down entire finished piece with a rubber mat between the marbles and press bed? Remove liner when done. On Oct 10, 2012 10

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread dave
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 18:33 +0200, Roland Jollivet wrote: > On 10 October 2012 17:31, Jason Burton wrote: > > > In that case let's reframe the problem. > > > > Build something akin to a felt tipped marker with a dome shaped tip. > > Complete with adhesive reservoir instead of ink. > > > > Mount i

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread yann jautard
Le 10/10/2012 13:35, Bruce Layne a écrit : > > There are many different UV curable adhesives. In most of the > applications that I've seen, bright UV light is shone directly into the > thin adhesive gap. We tested that. No luck. in fact it worked, it did initiates the curing process, but the res

Re: [Emc-users] MPG that is compatible with EMC2?

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Burton
The 3d space navigator maintains focus via their proprietary drivers. >From examining mine I can say it does enumerate as an HID compliant device, but not as a standard. I couldn't say how though, either. Jason On Oct 8, 2012 9:36 PM, "Jon Elson" wrote: > Igor Chudov wrote: > > John, I thought

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 07:58 -0700, craig wrote: ... snip > if I can find the right material maybe I can just push them through an > elastic hole. A shaped piston would not depend so much on quality. ... snip The vision of balls pooping out of elastic holes somehow reminded me of this: http://www

Re: [Emc-users] Hold-down straps

2012-10-10 Thread Matthew Herd
Andy, If you are familiar with metal shapers, these are commonly used work holders to enable planing the entire top surface of a workpiece. They are essentially a four sided shape. The jaw side and the bottom side are square, with the workpiece side angled at about 2 degrees from the jaw side

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Ralph Stirling
In case you wonder why air is superior, it boils down to the fact that the force of an electric solenoid is inversely proportional to stroke length, while a pneumatic cylinder has constant force regardless of stroke length. Air also produces essentially no heat at the point of use. Unfortunately,

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Dave
Solenoids generally stink when it comes to motion control. Air cylinders are much better especially with flow controls attached. Just control a solenoid valve instead of a solenoid actuator. You need a 4 way valve to effectively control a small air cylinder. It would be worth the addition of

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread doug metzler
I love this discussion! When kids blow bubbles (from those little bottles) they do so by dipping a ring with a handle in the fluid. Make a similar ring/handle the size of the glue pattern you need, use a a linear actuator to dip it in a pot of glue then bring the marble over and touch the ring. T

[Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Roland Jollivet
On 10 October 2012 17:31, Jason Burton wrote: > In that case let's reframe the problem. > > Build something akin to a felt tipped marker with a dome shaped tip. > Complete with adhesive reservoir instead of ink. > > Mount it tip down with a small vertical actuator. An air cylinder perhaps. > > Ap

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread craig
Thanks, I think I'll try this approach first. I'll probably use a solenoid instead of air. Electrical lines are easier to route and require less additional equipment. I have already built and tested solenoid control boards to control marbles from a parallel port. On 10/10/2012 8:31 AM, Ja

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Burton
In that case let's reframe the problem. Build something akin to a felt tipped marker with a dome shaped tip. Complete with adhesive reservoir instead of ink. Mount it tip down with a small vertical actuator. An air cylinder perhaps. Apply adhesive to the wood instead of the marble. Might that s

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread craig
Thanks for an approach I did not even consider. You got me thinking about how to use wicking processes. I am reticent to use picking up balls since quality control on some batches (colors) was not that good. if I can find the right material maybe I can just push them through an elastic hole.

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread dave
On Wed, 2012-10-10 at 12:34 +0200, yann jautard wrote: > Le 10/10/2012 10:32, andy pugh a écrit : > > On 10 October 2012 03:53, Dave wrote: > > > >> I'd look into glue that sets via ultraviolet light, so you don't have to > >> deal with it setting up in the equipment. > > UV might not get to where

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Burton
On Oct 10, 2012 9:06 AM, "andy pugh" wrote: > > On 10 October 2012 14:59, Jason Burton wrote: > > Take a 1/4" thick piece of hard felt. > > Apply the same through-hole and domed countersink as the wood. > > That's far too simple and effective. Can't you add at least a small stepper? > > -- > atp

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Jason Burton
Take a 1/4" thick piece of hard felt. Apply the same through-hole and domed countersink as the wood. Keep it wet by capillary action with your thin adhesive of choice. If the adhesive is too thick to wet through the back side, apply a dose to the felt in between marbles with a dipped ball mounted

Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux

2012-10-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 October 2012 13:38, Erik Friesen wrote: > I recently put in a 7i25 card because of latency issues. This make a > pretty rock solid system. I don't see the big difference between buffering > using a pci card, vs a usb device. The Mesa (and Pico) cards don't buffer as such. They are still v

Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux

2012-10-10 Thread Erik Friesen
I recently put in a 7i25 card because of latency issues. This make a pretty rock solid system. I don't see the big difference between buffering using a pci card, vs a usb device. Mesa has a high speed usb breakout that would probably work?? I think it uses the high speed ftdi chip? I think per

Re: [Emc-users] Hold-down straps

2012-10-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 October 2012 13:06, Dave Caroline wrote: > for the daddy version working from the t slot see fleabay.uk item > 360491648126 Aye, I know about them. It was the funny metal strips for use in a vice which were new to me. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Man

Re: [Emc-users] Hold-down straps

2012-10-10 Thread Dave Caroline
for the daddy version working from the t slot see fleabay.uk item 360491648126 which also gives a downward force to the edge also Dave Caroline -- Don't let slow site performance ruin your business. Deploy New Relic APM D

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread Bruce Layne
Most glass is opaque to UV light. The same is true for most clear plastics. Solar panel glass only needs to be transparent in the frequencies used by solar panels. Unless I was sure that the glass was transparent at the UV curing frequencies, I wouldn't try to shine UV through the glass to c

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread N. Christopher Perry
The transmission curve for glass doesn't permit UV. That wouldn't be a good application for UV cure compounds. N. Christopher Perry On Oct 10, 2012, at 6:34, yann jautard wrote: > > Le 10/10/2012 10:32, andy pugh a écrit : >> On 10 October 2012 03:53, Dave wrote: >> >>> I'd look into glue

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread N. Christopher Perry
Edge cure grades might address that issue. They are specifically designed for those sorts of situations. Check out Loctite UV cure epoxies. N. Christopher Perry On Oct 10, 2012, at 4:32, andy pugh wrote: > On 10 October 2012 03:53, Dave wrote: > >> I'd look into glue that sets via ultravi

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread yann jautard
Le 10/10/2012 10:32, andy pugh a écrit : > On 10 October 2012 03:53, Dave wrote: > >> I'd look into glue that sets via ultraviolet light, so you don't have to >> deal with it setting up in the equipment. > UV might not get to where it is needed through wood and coloured glass. > I agree with Andy

Re: [Emc-users] Mach on Linux

2012-10-10 Thread Lester Caine
Terry Christophersen wrote: >> I always surf the net while the CNC programs are running, I see nothing >> >wrong with that. >> >I play music and watch youtube videos also. > What is the hourly rate for watching ytube? > I need to know so I can tell my customers.This sounds like more > fun than ru

Re: [Emc-users] 5 axis kinematics - following error

2012-10-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 October 2012 08:59, Tomaz T. wrote: > I would need a little help understanding why I am getting following error on > axis 8 on my 5 axis machine running 5 axis kinematics. A common problem with non-trivial kinematics is to omit the acceleration terms from the [TRAJ] section. http://www.li

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread andy pugh
On 10 October 2012 03:53, Dave wrote: > I'd look into glue that sets via ultraviolet light, so you don't have to > deal with it setting up in the equipment. UV might not get to where it is needed through wood and coloured glass. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.c

Re: [Emc-users] 5 axis kinematics - following error

2012-10-10 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/10/10 Tomaz T. : > > Hi everyone, > I would need a little help understanding why I am getting following error on > axis 8 on my 5 axis machine running 5 axis kinematics. I run ie G43 H1 and > tool length from tool table is taken and placed for W axis, then I would need > to make move G0 W0

[Emc-users] 5 axis kinematics - following error

2012-10-10 Thread Tomaz T .
Hi everyone, I would need a little help understanding why I am getting following error on axis 8 on my 5 axis machine running 5 axis kinematics. I run ie G43 H1 and tool length from tool table is taken and placed for W axis, then I would need to make move G0 W0 and there following error shows u

Re: [Emc-users] Gluing little balls

2012-10-10 Thread yann jautard
I can add if you need a free vacuum pump, a used fridge compressor will do the trick. Just add some "vacuum tank" like an old gaz bottle or something similar to get a reserve, as the fridge compressor is quite slow, and it works well. Le 09/10/2012 21:39, Jack Coats a écrit : > Check out some