Re: [Emc-users] Axes Names, Backlash and Overshoot

2019-11-10 Thread Thomas D. Dean
2019 21:44:20 Thomas D. Dean wrote: I measured several rotations of the Z-axis lead screw on my Sherline 4400 CNC lathe. The BACKLASH setting is 0.0035 Thats bordering on looking to see if it can be tightened up. Start by checking the screws end play. I've added reynolds wrap between the o

Re: [Emc-users] Axes Names, Backlash and Overshoot

2019-11-08 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 11/8/19 4:13 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 8 Nov 2019 at 05:53, Thomas D. Dean wrote: The config file has a strange entry: AXES = 3 COORDINATES = X Z Should there be names for 3 axes? Not with a lathe. This apparent oddity is no longer required in 2.8. I am using LinuxCNC 2.7.14

Re: [Emc-users] Axes Names, Backlash and Overshoot

2019-11-08 Thread Thomas D. Dean
. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Thomas D. Dean Sent: Friday, November 08, 2019 12:30 AM To: Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [Emc-users] Axes Names, Backlash and Overshoot I have a Sherline CNC Lathe

[Emc-users] Axes Names, Backlash and Overshoot

2019-11-07 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I have a Sherline CNC Lathe with the computer system from Sherline. The disk drive failed. I replaced the disk and installed LinuxCNC 2.7.14. The install completed without error - great job. I have a problem with backlash and overshoot. The config file has a strange entry: AXES = 3

Re: [Emc-users] Axes Names, Backlash and Overshoot

2019-11-09 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I measured several rotations of the Z-axis lead screw on my Sherline 4400 CNC lathe. The BACKLASH setting is 0.0035 I started with a move in the + direction that was at least 2x the backlash clearing I saw earlier. > G90 and then a sequence of 35 > G1 Z +0.0050 F6 reading the digital dial

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-14 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/14/19 5:10 PM, R C wrote: Hello all, I am new to  linuxcnc (and getting started again).  I have a Sherline style mill and lathe, but never used linuxcnc (last time I used the machines was a long time ago. I installed linuxcnc based on Debian 9.5, reson was that the older/other

[Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-17 Thread Thomas D. Dean
Changing from the 'Latency Warning Messages', thread, I plan to test upgrading stretch to buster rtai. The steps are: 1. Fetch the RTAI deb's into ~/RTAI: cd ~/RTAI wget http://www.linuxcnc.org/temp/linux-headers-4.14.148-rtai-amd64.deb wget

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-17 Thread Thomas D. Dean
Upgrading to buster was successful. I got the RTAI kernel installed. linuxcnc has dependency problems. It wants python-vte, which wants libvte-common=1:0.28.2-5. libvte-common=1:0.28.2-6 is on the repo's. If I install libvte-common=1:0.28.2-5, it breaks other things... Trying to fix this

Re: [Emc-users] linuxcnc versions

2019-12-15 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/15/19 11:53 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Sun, 15 Dec 2019 at 19:39, R C wrote: That was a couple of weeks ago, mayb even 2 months. The Wheezy ISO was updated to reference the archive repository on the 24th of May. It sounds like your download was comfortably after that. So that seems to

[Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-15 Thread Thomas D. Dean
My CNC computer was purchased several years ago from Sherline with CNC installed. I have two disk drives. One has linuxcnc-2.7.14-wheezy.iso and the other has linuxcnc-stretch-uspace-amd64.iso. On both OS's, I see 'unexpected latency warning messages', infrequent on 'wheezy' and 99% of the

[Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.7.14 Axis Problem with File

2019-11-24 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I have a problem with a specific file when loaded into LinuxCNC Axis GUI. I created the file on one comnputer and copied it to the one with CNC. The original file had an error. I fixed it on the other computer, but, did not copy it to the CNC computer. DUH! The file causes LinuxCNC Axis to

Re: [Emc-users] LinuxCNC 2.7.14 Axis Problem with File

2019-11-25 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 11/25/19 4:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 25 Nov 2019 at 05:17, Thomas D. Dean wrote: What does AXIS do when a file is opened, but, not run? Axis runs the program in simulation to create the preview plot. If the code contains an endless loop, then Axis takes an infinite time to create

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-18 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/18/19 2:43 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 10:18, Thomas D. Dean wrote: --with-realtime=uspace Build for any realtime platform, or for non-realtime. The resulting LinuxCNC executables will run on both a Linux kernel with Preempt-RT patches (providing realtime

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-18 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/18/19 1:14 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 18 Dec 2019 at 03:19, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have buster installed and rtai-modules-4.14.148_5.2.3-linuxcnc_amd64.deb I built linuxcnc, running the buster rtai kernel, from the git sources. ... linuxcnc-uspace_2.9.0~pre0_amd64.deb linuxcnc

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/19/19 5:34 AM, Dewey Garrett wrote: $ man dpkg ... --force-help Give help about the --force-thing options. ... The command: 'dpkg --force-help' shows how to force an install. $ dpkg --force-help|grep depend [!] dependsTurn all dependency problems into

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI Lathe HomeAxis Failure

2019-12-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/19/19 2:38 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I installed linuxcnc from git sources. The mill config seems to work OK with my old 'wheezy' config as converted by linuxcnc_2.9.0~pre0_amd64.  Manual control seems to work. MDI seems to work. The lathe config from 'wheezy' would not work after

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/19/19 5:34 AM, Dewey Garrett wrote: $ man dpkg ... --force-help Give help about the --force-thing options. ... The command: 'dpkg --force-help' shows how to force an install. $ dpkg --force-help|grep depend [!] dependsTurn all dependency problems into

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
As noted above, I build .deb from git sources. I installed using the method given by Dewey. Initial install shows the following depends not met: linuxcnc depends on python2.7-glade2 | python-glade2; however: Package python2.7-glade2 is not installed. Package python-glade2 is not installed.

[Emc-users] Buster RTAI Lathe HomeAxis Failure

2019-12-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I installed linuxcnc from git sources. The mill config seems to work OK with my old 'wheezy' config as converted by linuxcnc_2.9.0~pre0_amd64. Manual control seems to work. MDI seems to work. The lathe config from 'wheezy' would not work after conversion by linuxcnc_2.9.0~pre0_amd64. I

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI Lathe HomeAxis Failure

2019-12-22 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/20/19 3:59 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 11:57, Thomas D. Dean wrote: The conversion tool failed to convert my old sherline lathe config. Can you attach the zipped-up converted config? (That should contain the original config in an "old" directory) I will t

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI Lathe HomeAxis Failure

2019-12-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I did a 'git pull' and built the 'run in place' version. I modified the SherlineLathe_inch.ini file to have 2 axis and removed the [Y Axis] and [joint_1] sections. I changed the [Z Axis] [joint_2] to [Joint_1]. The SherlineLathe_inch.ini uses HALFILE = core_stepper.hal I think I need to

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI Lathe HomeAxis Failure FIXED

2019-12-19 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/19/19 5:38 PM, Dewey Garrett wrote: With both the installed and the 'run in place' versions, the home Axis button for the Z axis does nothing. This is a newly reported bug for the axis gui and 'historical' lathe configurations that specified 3 axes (xyz) for a lathe (xz). In earlier

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-17 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I have buster installed and rtai-modules-4.14.148_5.2.3-linuxcnc_amd64.deb I built linuxcnc, running the buster rtai kernel, from the git sources. dpkg-checkbuilddeps found most of the needed packages. It missed 5, bwidgit, libtk-img, tclx, python-gtk2, and python-yapps. After build-in-place,

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI Lathe HomeAxis Failure

2019-12-20 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/20/19 2:43 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 03:34, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I did a 'git pull' and built the 'run in place' version. I modified the SherlineLathe_inch.ini file to have 2 axis and removed the [Y Axis] and [joint_1] sections. I changed the [Z Axis] [joint_2

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI Lathe HomeAxis Failure

2019-12-20 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/20/19 3:59 AM, andy pugh wrote: On Fri, 20 Dec 2019 at 11:57, Thomas D. Dean wrote: The conversion tool failed to convert my old sherline lathe config. Can you attach the zipped-up converted config? (That should contain the original config in an "old" directory) I will t

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-18 Thread Thomas D. Dean
Most of my computers are multi-user, although that is becoming more difficult. I have one install for an application for all users. Since the package creation/installation is broken, I decided to go back to one computer, one person philosophy. I cleaned the build tree, configured, and built

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-18 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 12/18/19 9:35 PM, bari wrote: "Gmoccapy and Gscreen want python-vte, but you should be able to run other GUIs without it." On 12/18/19 11:26 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: Now, if the problem with python-vte can be fixed, I can install linuxcnc. Again, I can run the 'run in plac

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-18 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I built linuxcnc from git sources. Build was OK. Install was not. The problem is still python-vte and mismatched version of libvte-common. Tom Dean Here is what I did. Building linuxcnc in debial 10 from linuxcnc/tmp:

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-11 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-05 01:57, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 04:25, Thomas D. Dean wrote: How do I do a clean install of buster rtai and llinuxcnc? Experimental at the moment. But: 1) Install Buster 2) Download the .debs at www.linuxcnc.org/temp 3) Install the Linux-image and Linux-headers

[Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-01 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly. Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it working. Now, linuxcnc freezes. After fixing a problem with apt database, > sudo apt update > sudo apt

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-01 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it working.  Now

Re: [Emc-users] Wierd perms problem

2020-02-01 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-01 22:09, Gene Heskett wrote: I have a 64G sd card in the reader with a raspbian buster full install on it. I would assume that the first, boot partition is dos or vfat for its filesystem. I have a realtime build of 4.19.100-rt41 that I am trying to write to this cards /boot

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-02 22:06, N wrote: Pretty sure I use buster on several machines. You use linuxcnc with buster? Tom Dean ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-02 17:00, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/02/2020 05:04 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-01 20:46, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/01/2020 08:35 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I have been using linuxcnc 2.9.0~Pre0 from sources, run in place. Until today, it has worked, mostly.  Before today, about 2x per week it would freeze and I had to cycle power to get it working.  Now

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-03 03:34, andy pugh wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2020 at 07:07, Thomas D. Dean wrote: The hang was on initial linuxcnc startup. No toolpath was loaded. I can only think of a few possibilities. (I am not saying that there are not many others, I am saying that my imagination is limited

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-04 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-04 07:40, Stuart Stevenson wrote: A number of years ago (circa 2000) I experienced problems with updating to a new version of Linux. This was on SuSe and Redhat. You can never be sure what is broken but you can always be sure something is broken. I always do a clean install now. How

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-05 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-05 01:57, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 04:25, Thomas D. Dean wrote: How do I do a clean install of buster rtai and llinuxcnc? Experimental at the moment. But: 1) Install Buster 2) Download the .debs at www.linuxcnc.org/temp 3) Install the Linux-image and Linux-headers

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-02 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-02 17:02, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/02/2020 06:32 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: So the problem started right after you upgraded to the new RTAI kernel? That's where I'd look for a problem first. Ohhh!  I NEVER, EVER, update the kernel on a LinuxCNC system. In fact, I NEVER

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-09 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-08 20:50, R C wrote: I saw linuxcnc 2.9.x mentioned a few times. where can it be downloaded from? thanks, I was building from sources. Next week, I have time to try it again. Need to repair my computer, first... Tom Dean ___

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package. packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/python-gtksourceview2/download

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 I saw this last night. I plan to try this, today. Thanks, Tom Dean ___ Emc-users

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package. packages.debian.org/sid/amd64/python

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:44, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 These two URL's show Error No such package

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS - NOT

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I shut down the system last night. I can boot debian 7 (sda) and run linuxcnc from the distro. Everything comes up and seems normal. But, on boot into debian 10 (sdb), it drops into the console login. I can startx, but, the display is background only. I can switch to another console,

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS - NOT

2020-02-13 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-13 18:32, Jon Elson wrote: On 02/13/2020 04:53 PM, Thomas D. Dean wrote: I shut down the system last night. I can boot debian 7 (sda) and run linuxcnc from the distro. Everything comes up and seems normal. But, on boot into debian 10 (sdb), it drops into the console login.  I

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs WORKS

2020-02-12 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-12 13:44, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 13:39, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 2020-02-12 00:03, Robert Murphy wrote: Have you seen this on the forums https://forum.linuxcnc.org/gmoccapy/36942-debian-10-dependencies?start=10#149669 I followed this series of emails. python

Re: [Emc-users] 2.7.15 released!

2020-01-05 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-01-05 18:43, John Dammeyer wrote: My system boots and tells me it's 2.7.14. If I unplug the MESA card from the Ethernet port and connect it to the LAN what steps would I take to upgrade without breaking anything. Is it as simple as sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get upgrade I hate to

[Emc-users] Actual Feed Rate

2020-01-08 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I am attempting to understand feed, etc. G91 G01 X 0.5000 F6 With feed override set to 50%, do I get an actual feed rate of F3? Tom Dean ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net

Re: [Emc-users] Tool presetter

2020-08-31 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-08-31 10:39, N wrote: Anyone have any experience on where to find a good tool presetter? And/Or edge detector? As tool usually is a rather good conductor and sensor could be made of conductive material most obvious would be simple spring loaded contact meausurement for both. I found