Re: [Emc-users] Point-to-point machining center retrofit?

2010-04-01 Thread Andy Pugh
On 1 April 2010 05:26, Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote:

 How to manage the point-to-point
 operations is where I'm scratching my head. Could the boring operations be
 treated as tool changes with the appropriate offsets applied or would they be
 considered as separate axes?

I think that as toolchanges would make the most sense, you could use
the toolchange process to raise and lower the individual heads and as
you have noted the tool offsets would be a great advantage. The new
(EMC2 V 2.4.0) tool table with tool length entries for each direction
might be an advantage here.
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.4/html/gcode_tool_compensation.html

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[Emc-users] Point-to-point machining center retrofit?

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Bernard
Just wondering if anyone out there has had experience retrofitting a
point-to-point woodworking machining center to run on EMC2? I'm thinking of a
machine such as the Biesse Rover which would typically have 1 or 2 router
spindles, vertical and horizontal boring heads, and grooving saw. Having studied
the EMC documentation it seems like a doable(though daunting) project. I would
like to hear any and all opinions.

Thanks,
Greg


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Re: [Emc-users] Point-to-point machining center retrofit?

2010-03-31 Thread Andy Pugh
On 31 March 2010 05:24, Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@yahoo.com wrote:

  I'm thinking of a
 machine such as the Biesse Rover which would typically have 1 or 2 router
 spindles, vertical and horizontal boring heads, and grooving saw.

How many total axes would there be? If there are more than 9 then it
gets a bit tricky.

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Re: [Emc-users] Point-to-point machining center retrofit?

2010-03-31 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
which would typically have 1 or 2 router
spindles, vertical and horizontal boring heads, and grooving saw.

Sounds like it would be prudent to have each tool controlled by independent
instances of EMC with m codes to pass control to each as each new cutting
operation is called.  But of course I am just a noob at this and more sage
users will chime in...

Can you provide a more complete description of a typical sequence and the
axes each tool will occupy?
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Re: [Emc-users] Point-to-point machining center retrofit?

2010-03-31 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen,
  I just watched this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9fJDgHmuNsfeature=related
  Is this a copy/version of the machine you are thinking about?
  If it is then EMC2 will control it. It is just a three axis mill with
multiple heads. You will be able to control them easily. Programming
shouldn't be a problem.
  Controlling that many vises may lead to a LOT of i/o but is doable.
Stuart

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Re: [Emc-users] Point-to-point machining center retrofit?

2010-03-31 Thread Edward Bernard
I didn't know you could run independent instances of EMC. How would this be 
done?





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which would typically have 1 or 2 router
spindles, vertical and horizontal boring heads, and grooving saw.

Sounds like it would be prudent to have each tool controlled by independent
instances of EMC with m codes to pass control to each as each new cutting
operation is called.  But of course I am just a noob at this and more sage
users will chime in...

Can you provide a more complete description of a typical sequence and the
axes each tool will occupy?
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Re: [Emc-users] Point-to-point machining center retrofit?

2010-03-31 Thread Stephen Wille Padnos
Edward Bernard wrote:
 I didn't know you could run independent instances of EMC. How would this be 
 done?

You can't, unless you do it on separate computers.

If you don't need full coordinated motion on multiple sets of axes, you 
may be able to implement some sort of HAL modules to do what you need.  
You can load as many hardware drivers as you want, subject to CPU time 
constraints, so you can run a lot of (mechanical) hardware from one PC.

- Steve


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Re: [Emc-users] Point-to-point machining center retrofit?

2010-03-31 Thread Greg Bernard
Andy Pugh a...@... writes:

 
 On 31 March 2010 05:24, Greg Bernard yankeelena2...@... wrote:
 
   I'm thinking of a
  machine such as the Biesse Rover which would typically have 1 or 2 router
  spindles, vertical and horizontal boring heads, and grooving saw.
 
 How many total axes would there be? If there are more than 9 then it
 gets a bit tricky.
 


It's basically a 3 axis machine with multiple toolheads on the z. In practice
there are really 2 modes of operation. When using the router spindle it is
operating as any 3 axis mill would. Boring operations are point-to-point, ie the
multiple spindle boring head moves to a position and bores a line holes. The
vertical horing is arranged with the spindles in an L arrangement and each leg
of the L is independent. In a similar manner orizontal boring uses multiple
heads arranged parallel to the x and y. How to manage the point-to-point
operations is where I'm scratching my head. Could the boring operations be
treated as tool changes with the appropriate offsets applied or would they be
considered as separate axes? It seems there would be a number of ways of
handling this. 


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