Re: [Emc-users] Gear Hobber

2015-08-01 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Indeed it's not that critical, or at least if the tilting surface has a big
radius where the vernier is placed is more than enough to set the angle.

In the pictures you can see our hobber working and you can see the vernier
marked with red.

http://s2.postimg.org/670ern5qh/IMG_20150223_WA0002.jpg

http://s2.postimg.org/p0m7on3yh/IMG_20150223_WA0004.jpg

2015-08-01 1:47 GMT-03:00 Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com:

 and feed the hob once every revolution of the work. 
 That is geared as well it is a continuous function

 For adjusting the twist, I was figuring on accurately placing two
 drill bushings that would hold two dowel pins against which I would
 place my sine bar, and just use a set of gage blocks to get the angle
 right.
 a rotary axis,
 but this does not have to be as accurate as one first thinks, on my
 hobbing machine and the one I used to use it is just lines marked on
 the head and vernier lines on the body to clamp up the angle. On the
 Mikron you could only estimate to about half a degree iirc.
 On the Barber Colman, see the ball handle upper middle to the rear of the
 head

 http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2014/2014_09_17_Barber_Colman_cnc/IMG_1830.JPG
 That has a vernier marked to allow estimation to 5 minutes.

 Dave Caroline


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Re: [Emc-users] Gear Hobber

2015-07-31 Thread Dave Caroline
and feed the hob once every revolution of the work. 
That is geared as well it is a continuous function

For adjusting the twist, I was figuring on accurately placing two
drill bushings that would hold two dowel pins against which I would
place my sine bar, and just use a set of gage blocks to get the angle
right.
a rotary axis,
but this does not have to be as accurate as one first thinks, on my
hobbing machine and the one I used to use it is just lines marked on
the head and vernier lines on the body to clamp up the angle. On the
Mikron you could only estimate to about half a degree iirc.
On the Barber Colman, see the ball handle upper middle to the rear of the head
http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2014/2014_09_17_Barber_Colman_cnc/IMG_1830.JPG
That has a vernier marked to allow estimation to 5 minutes.

Dave Caroline

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[Emc-users] Gear Hobber

2015-07-31 Thread richshoop
What I envision, after watching 'The Little Hobber' on youtube about 100 times. 
Doing hobbing with a mechanical connection between the Hobbing arbor and the 
work arbor is painful, all those gears, can guarantee that I won't have the set 
I need. I found on Ebay, tool suppliers, in China, selling DP20 or Module 1.25 
hobs for about US$50. Using what I can see in the little hobber, I need to 
accurately twist the hob axis, and then synchronize, the hob to the work, and 
feed the hob once every revolution of the work. For adjusting the twist, I was 
figuring on accurately placing two drill bushings that would hold two dowel 
pins against which I would place my sine bar, and just use a set of gage blocks 
to get the angle right. 
For powering this thing, I am considering some of Jon's servo motors, running 
in the 1500 to 2000 rpm range, with appropriate gear reduction to the hob and 
the work spindles. If I can use the encoder A channel or B channel as the 
locking frequency from the hob spindle, coming up with a divider for the work 
spindle should not be hard. 
Basic construction would entail use of 5200 series double row ball bearings for 
the spindles, and those very nice, and oh so cheap ER collet spindles. 
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 11:19:14 +0200 
From: Karlsson  Wang nicklas.karls...@karlssonwang.se 
Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Gear hobbing machine 
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Sounds great. I bough a few hundred kilos of material probably intented for 
gears from bankcrupt company which i intend to use for testing machine. 


Nicklas Karlsson 



On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:09:51 +0100 
andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com wrote: 

 On 30 July 2015 at 07:16, Dave Caroline dave.thearchiv...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Andy has implemented it on a mill 
  http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Hobbing 
 
 I have now created a dedicated hobbing GladeVCP panel which performs 
 basic gear calculations (including span across teeth for size 
 checking) as well as running the hobbing process. 
 
 I will try to remember to add it to the Wiki page. 
 
 
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 10:30:21 +0100 
From: andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com 
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On 30 July 2015 at 08:02, Marcus Bowman 
marcus.bow...@visible.eclipse.co.uk wrote: 
 it would be useful if folks could put the pictures somewhere we could all see 
 them. 

I have been tending to embed inductive proxes in the machine somewhere 
with a drilled hole as the target. 
https://picasaweb.google.com/108164504656404380542/HarrisonMill#5989135693933177186
 

The Y-axis prox is embedded in the gib block, and uses a drilled hole target. 
The Z-axis is actually also on the gib block and the target is a metal 
block screwed to the main column casting. 
The X (not visible) is in a bolted-on block under the edge of the 
saddle with another drilled hole in the underdide of the table slide 
as the target. 

They can all get wet but X and Y are completely protected from swarf 
and the Z is out of the way of swarf. 

I bought 5 of the 8mm proximity sensors from eBay for less than ?15. 
You want the