Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-22 Thread craig
I don't see any problem using current convensions if the co-linear case is disallowed. If the points are not co-linear. It is sufficient to use the the same rules that would apply if the three point were to be transformed into the x-y plane by a series of simple rotations. Craig

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-20 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Not that it really matters, but three points can define a plane and it's normal based on the order in which they are listed. For example, declare that you always list the points in a clockwise direction (based on the desired plane normal). Then you

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Ian McMahon
What about a new plane selection block which allowed you to define an arbitrary plane using 3 points? On Apr 19, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Chris Radek wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:18:52PM +0300, Viesturs L??cis wrote: How hard would it be to add that? It would require 3 coordinates for each

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/19 Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:18:52PM +0300, Viesturs L??cis wrote: How hard would it be to add that? It would require 3 coordinates for each of start, end and center point. The guts of linuxcnc already support this kind of motion and have for some

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Stuart Stevenson
:) not so fast - never is a very long time! :) On Apr 19, 2012 2:00 PM, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:45:42PM +0300, Viesturs L??cis wrote: Uhhh, You are right, halfcircles. All three points are on a straight line, around which the arc can freely rotate. I

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread andy pugh
On 19 April 2012 19:57, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: That is just the worst problem.  Your system doesn't uniquely identify any arc.  For every start, center, end points there are a pair of arcs that share the points.  This is why we have G2/G3.  If you don't have a normal vector you

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2012/4/19 andy pugh bodge...@gmail.com: On 19 April 2012 19:57, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: That is just the worst problem.  Your system doesn't uniquely identify any arc.  For every start, center, end points there are a pair of arcs that share the points.  This is why we have G2/G3.

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Jon Elson
Chris Radek wrote: The correct solution is probably to specify the plane's normal vector. While it's entirely possible to do, I doubt anyone would ever use this feature if someone did the work to implement it. Yup, messy. Maybe NURBS is really the way to go, it seems to solve several of

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread charles green
, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: From: Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 11:57 AM On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 09:45:42PM +0300, Viesturs L??cis wrote

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Stuart Stevenson
of this new coordinate system. maybe g14 selects no preferred plane, and disallows g2/3 until g16-19 are set. maybe it also sets x'y'z' = xyz coordinates? --- On Thu, 4/19/12, Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com wrote: From: Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread Terry Christophersen
To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Cc: Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs I don't remember the complete syntax and symbols used but on my fanuc 15m control G68 sets the rotation angle of one rotary axis. You can use two G68

Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs

2012-04-19 Thread charles green
. --- On Thu, 4/19/12, Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com wrote: From: Stuart Stevenson stus...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Nonplanar arcs To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Thursday, April 19, 2012, 9:13 PM I don't remember the complete syntax