Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-05 Thread ben lipkowitz
On Wed, 5 Dec 2007, Roland Jollivet wrote: > > I would not use gears to drive the arms, but feedscrews, forming a triangle, > much like a mechanical shovel. I did not draw that all in as it was getting > real late. once you start making triangles out of feedscrews, the madness sets in... http://en

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-05 Thread Dean Hedin
I like the idea of rotary joints to eliminate linear bearings. But you are now forced into a complicated drive mechanisim at each rotary joint. It's hard to beat lead screws for simplicity.- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Th

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-05 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 05 December 2007, Anders Wallin wrote: >John Thornton wrote: >> Yea, being on the other side of the planet from McMaster Carr has got to >> suck... > >It gets worse. McMaster Carr will currently not sell anything to non-US >customers. I tried ordering something a while ago and back cam

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-05 Thread Anders Wallin
John Thornton wrote: > Yea, being on the other side of the planet from McMaster Carr has got to > suck... > It gets worse. McMaster Carr will currently not sell anything to non-US customers. I tried ordering something a while ago and back came a 5-line answer about "increasingly complex export

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-05 Thread emc
On Wednesday 05 December 2007 12:14, Roland Jollivet wrote: > Hi All > > Thanks for all the informative replies. I'll pursue the references. > Sounds like it's doable, but the time/effort spent on software development > will exceed the material savings. On a rigidity for rigidity, accuracy for acc

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-05 Thread John Thornton
Yea, being on the other side of the planet from McMaster Carr has got to suck... As for using feedscrews to drive the arms that adds another part to the position calculation as the amount of rotation changes with the angles as well as the amount of force required to do said work. Keep us posted

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-05 Thread Roland Jollivet
Hi All Thanks for all the informative replies. I'll pursue the references. Sounds like it's doable, but the time/effort spent on software development will exceed the material savings. Unless of course, a few thousand were to be made. I would not use gears to drive the arms, but feedscrews, formin

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-05 Thread John Thornton
On 4 Dec 2007 at 16:51, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is a very interesting and quite challenging project... The cost to drive each joint of the pivot mill would far exceed the cost of Dremil size slides. While the concept is sound the mechanics of the gears would be the killer. You are designing

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-04 Thread Ray Henry
Oops. One additional thought, while the tool will always be perpendicular to the work surface, the z kinematics are not trivial either. But in that case I think you can use an Angular definition for that axis. You'd just have to work out the motion in and out along the axis of the forearm depen

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-04 Thread Ray Henry
It's a SCARA. They are very common for pic-and-place machines but one of our guys a few years ago wrote a thesis while building one and testing it for stiffness. I believe the guys was from India. The current SCARA kinematic files are based on his work. Shouldn't be much of a problem to contro

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-04 Thread sam sokolik
Message - From: "Jeff Epler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2007 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill > What an interesting looking machine. > > We have a demo of a similar type of machine, cal

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-04 Thread Jeff Epler
What an interesting looking machine. We have a demo of a similar type of machine, called SCARA. In emc 2.2.2, you can run the sample configuration scara/scara.ini and see a visualization of this machine on your desktop. Screenshot here: http://axis.unpy.net/01170693566 In emc, the process o

Re: [Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-04 Thread Javid Butler
esday, December 04, 2007 6:50 PM Subject: [Emc-users] Pivot mill Hi I believe that the greatest hurdle in constructing a small CNC machine is the cost of the linear slides, and I've been trying to think of a way to alleviate this, and come up with a 'Pivot Mill'. Whil

[Emc-users] Pivot mill

2007-12-04 Thread Roland Jollivet
Hi I believe that the greatest hurdle in constructing a small CNC machine is the cost of the linear slides, and I've been trying to think of a way to alleviate this, and come up with a 'Pivot Mill'. While this is robotic in configuration, it is for all intensive purposes intended to supplant a co