Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-15 Thread dave engvall
In converting my Mazak I just tied a toggle switch to the control line for the valve that ran the hydraulics for tool release. One hand on the switch and one on the tool. Rather crude but it worked until the belleville stack broke. Dave On 11/14/21 4:02 AM, Roland Jollivet wrote: On a BT30

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-15 Thread Todd Zuercher
m: Matthew Herd Sent: Sunday, November 14, 2021 8:21 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. I believe (but could be wrong) that Haas machines use a single momentary switch on the head to release the drawbar. Ma

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-14 Thread Gene Heskett
an R8. Its also tight enough I have to use a hammer on the regular end wrench to loosen it. > > -Original Message- > > From: andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com] > > Sent: November-14-21 7:04 PM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject:

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-14 Thread John Dammeyer
andrew beck [mailto:andrewbeck0...@gmail.com] > Sent: November-14-21 7:04 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar > > There are two common types of draw bars. > > The ones that use a pullstud. Eg haas. Just have a tool eject

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-14 Thread andrew beck
> > From: John Dammeyer > > Sent: November 14, 2021 12:59 AM > > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > > Subject: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar > > > > Quick question. > > > > On commercial machines that have buttons to load or unload the tool by &

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-14 Thread Matthew Herd
t frees both hands to remove/insert the tool. > > -Original Message- > From: John Dammeyer > Sent: November 14, 2021 12:59 AM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar > > Quick question. > > On commercial machines th

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-14 Thread ken.strauss
I'm unsure of commercial machines but I use only a foot switch on my Tormach. That frees both hands to remove/insert the tool. -Original Message- From: John Dammeyer Sent: November 14, 2021 12:59 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar Quick

[Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-14 Thread Roland Jollivet
On a BT30 spindle; A button the front of the sindle, drawbar is depressed only as long as you hold the button in. On Sun, 14 Nov 2021 at 08:03, John Dammeyer wrote: > Quick question. > > On commercial machines that have buttons to load or unload the tool by > actuating the drawbar how are the

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-14 Thread Peter Hodgson
On my Prototrak mill there are two 16mm dia. momentary switches vertically mounted. Load - white - above Unload - black - below > On 14 Nov 2021, at 06:00, John Dammeyer wrote: > > Quick question. > > On commercial machines that have buttons to load or unload the tool by > actuating the

[Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-11-13 Thread John Dammeyer
Quick question. On commercial machines that have buttons to load or unload the tool by actuating the drawbar how are the buttons arranged? Are there two? One for Load and one for Unload? Are they arranged vertically or horizontally? If vertically does the upper one load or unload? If

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-07-20 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 20 July 2021 12:37:52 Les Newell wrote: > My Hurco uses an air impact to run the draw bar. It has a small > pneumatic ram to push the driver down to engage the drawbar. > > Les > > On 19/07/2021 22:07, John Dammeyer wrote: > > Here's the basic rendering. Now I can redesign it to

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-07-20 Thread Les Newell
My Hurco uses an air impact to run the draw bar. It has a small pneumatic ram to push the driver down to engage the drawbar. Les On 19/07/2021 22:07, John Dammeyer wrote: Here's the basic rendering. Now I can redesign it to better fit the mill. It's possible I could add a flip down latch

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-07-19 Thread John Dammeyer
achine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar > > On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 01:41, John Dammeyer wrote: > > > The disk spring setup would be great if the only thing I used was TT > > Tooling. But if I remove the R8 3/4" flat top collet and insert &g

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-07-19 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 19 Jul 2021 at 01:41, John Dammeyer wrote: > The disk spring setup would be great if the only thing I used was TT Tooling. > But if I remove the R8 3/4" flat top collet and insert my 3/4" R8 drill > chuck the springs seem like they'd be an issue. You might be able to convert the

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-07-18 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
It would be simpler to use belleville washers and an air cylinder to apply pressure to release the tooling. https://hackaday.com/2020/01/11/stacks-of-spring-washers-power-the-drawbar-on-this-cnc-mill-conversion/ On Sunday, July 18, 2021, 5:39:23 PM MDT, John Dammeyer wrote: A long

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-07-18 Thread John Dammeyer
Hi Andy, > From: Andy Pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] The disk spring setup would be great if the only thing I used was TT Tooling. But if I remove the R8 3/4" flat top collet and insert my 3/4" R8 drill chuck the springs seem like they'd be an issue. The air cylinder to push on the spring

Re: [Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-07-18 Thread Andy Pugh
> On 19 Jul 2021, at 00:39, John Dammeyer wrote: > > case though is there a way to limit the distance the butterfly turns? Have you considered a disc spring setup instead? The one on my mill has worked well. Otherwise: maybe you could have a plain section above the thread for the nut to

[Emc-users] Power Draw Bar

2021-07-18 Thread John Dammeyer
A long long time ago I read an article in Home Shop Machinist written by Rick Sparber on what he called a WUT. https://rick.sparber.org/Articles/drawbar/Drawbar.htm Although I couldn't make mine exactly as his I was able to at least create a thick hex washer so that I could tighten the draw bar