Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
If you have nothing else to do download the demo for SynergyCAD. Parasoiid based. 2-D, 2.5D, wireframe, solids. lathe, edm. For the lathe you draw in X,Y and it transforms it to Z, X when you CAM. I started from scratch and it took me a long time to get comfortable with it. Exports are dxf, dwg which tend to be problematical and iges. ... runs on Windoze with some limitations but those limitations go away with Linux. Their forte was extrusion screws back when the only program was DOS based. YMMV. Dave On 2/3/21 2:37 PM, R C wrote: actually, I think that is what I saw that guy in that video I posted doing. In freecad, he took a plane and intersected it with his work piece, and then created a path (he called it a wire.). I posted that video here a few iterations back in this thread. That seemed kind of neat, how he did that, but I was not able to reproduce that. On 2/3/21 3:29 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 21:55, R C wrote: I know how to code, from micro controller to clusters, but this "g-code thing" is a different animal. And I imagine, that it would take a lot of drawing and coding on paper, you know, like the 1970's Univaxes... Not really, you just need to draw the outline. For most lathe-turned parts that is just a set of diameters and shoulders. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
actually, I think that is what I saw that guy in that video I posted doing. In freecad, he took a plane and intersected it with his work piece, and then created a path (he called it a wire.). I posted that video here a few iterations back in this thread. That seemed kind of neat, how he did that, but I was not able to reproduce that. On 2/3/21 3:29 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 21:55, R C wrote: I know how to code, from micro controller to clusters, but this "g-code thing" is a different animal. And I imagine, that it would take a lot of drawing and coding on paper, you know, like the 1970's Univaxes... Not really, you just need to draw the outline. For most lathe-turned parts that is just a set of diameters and shoulders. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 21:55, R C wrote: > I know how to code, from micro controller to clusters, but this "g-code > thing" is a different animal. And I imagine, that it would take a lot > of drawing and coding on paper, you know, like the 1970's Univaxes... Not really, you just need to draw the outline. For most lathe-turned parts that is just a set of diameters and shoulders. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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In my experience you don't need to run the installer after renewing a Fusion360 license for personal use. You just have to do some clicking on their website. If the installer downloads automatically as a part of the license renewal you can ignore it. On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 4:50 PM R C wrote: > I set up a new machine with a clean windows 10 install (on a disk tray), > after the install it was not happy with the AMD ATI video card > (irritating), apparently there is an ATI driver that messes up and is > not needed. > > > When the application starts, one needs to be connected to the internet, > and log in with an account and password previously created. (also > annoying and a security risk I think). > > > > does the installer, a new download, install over the old one? do you > need to uninstall the old one? or start from scratch with a fresh > windows 10 even? > > > > > On 2/3/21 1:59 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 3:13 PM R C wrote: > > > >> well, > >> > >> > >> I don't expect companies to give me stuff for free of course, they > >> produce software for a market, to make money, I am just not in that > >> market. I read that a license, per year, if not mistaken, is $495, and > >> you can use it for free for a year (1st year ?). That is of course a > >> good deal, for a machine shop. > >> > >> > >> The one year license is renewable. To renew you just download the > > installer again. I don't think I even let the download complete last > time > > I did it. > > > > Dave > > > > ___ > > Emc-users mailing list > > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Matthew Herd Email: herd.m...@gmail.com Cell: 610-608-8930 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
On 2/3/21 2:14 PM, andy pugh wrote: On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 18:18, R C wrote: I have been busy for a while with that pay check thing, and didn't have much time to look into creating g-code, that I can use in linux cnc for a lathe. It's worth pointing out that now that LinuxCNC has G71 and G72 you might not need CAM. right, I looked at that, a while back. If you can hand-code the desired profile then the repeated cuts etc are all done by the cycle. I know how to code, from micro controller to clusters, but this "g-code thing" is a different animal. And I imagine, that it would take a lot of drawing and coding on paper, you know, like the 1970's Univaxes... It seems more convenient, esier, less error prone, less crashing tools in the chuck, work etc, to do it with a CAD program, and have it generate g-code. Be aware that the built-in version in Master uses a different set of control words to the Python remap version that can run on earlier versions. Uhm, I don't ven understand what it is you just said I am still searching for something that works for me the easiest, but as I said, it is a beginning hobby for me, so I am not pressured for time. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
I set up a new machine with a clean windows 10 install (on a disk tray), after the install it was not happy with the AMD ATI video card (irritating), apparently there is an ATI driver that messes up and is not needed. When the application starts, one needs to be connected to the internet, and log in with an account and password previously created. (also annoying and a security risk I think). does the installer, a new download, install over the old one? do you need to uninstall the old one? or start from scratch with a fresh windows 10 even? On 2/3/21 1:59 PM, Dave Matthews wrote: On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 3:13 PM R C wrote: well, I don't expect companies to give me stuff for free of course, they produce software for a market, to make money, I am just not in that market. I read that a license, per year, if not mistaken, is $495, and you can use it for free for a year (1st year ?). That is of course a good deal, for a machine shop. The one year license is renewable. To renew you just download the installer again. I don't think I even let the download complete last time I did it. Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
On Tue, 2 Feb 2021 at 18:18, R C wrote: > I have been busy for a while with that pay check thing, and didn't have > much time to look into creating g-code, that I can use in linux cnc > for a lathe. It's worth pointing out that now that LinuxCNC has G71 and G72 you might not need CAM. If you can hand-code the desired profile then the repeated cuts etc are all done by the cycle. Be aware that the built-in version in Master uses a different set of control words to the Python remap version that can run on earlier versions. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 16:48, Bruce Layne wrote: > > once you have tens or > hundreds of designs in their proprietary CAD format, they decide to > unilaterally change the deal and you're trapped. Not just Autodesk, though. Alibre did that to me. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with a pandemonium attachment and is designed for the especial use of mechanical geniuses, daredevils and lunatics." — George Fitch, Atlanta Constitution Newspaper, 1912 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 3:13 PM R C wrote: > well, > > > I don't expect companies to give me stuff for free of course, they > produce software for a market, to make money, I am just not in that > market. I read that a license, per year, if not mistaken, is $495, and > you can use it for free for a year (1st year ?). That is of course a > good deal, for a machine shop. > > > The one year license is renewable. To renew you just download the installer again. I don't think I even let the download complete last time I did it. Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
well, I don't expect companies to give me stuff for free of course, they produce software for a market, to make money, I am just not in that market. I read that a license, per year, if not mistaken, is $495, and you can use it for free for a year (1st year ?). That is of course a good deal, for a machine shop. I am not in that market, hobbyist here, and a beginning one, so yeah $495 a year, at this point not something I'd consider. In my case it would probably come down to $200 $300 for the 2 parts I might make with it, a year. I am using Freecad, and for the mill it does what I want it to do, and probably much more. It seems though that for some reason it is easier to find software that can do things on a mill, but not on a lathe. On 2/3/21 9:45 AM, Bruce Layne wrote: This is my annual warning that AutoDesk isn't The Benevolent Software Company, and they aren't in business to give you free stuff because you're so awesome. AutoDesk has a history of offering free or low cost software to entice users into investing their time to learn the software (this may be the highest cost of ownership), and once you have tens or hundreds of designs in their proprietary CAD format, they decide to unilaterally change the deal and you're trapped. They did this to me with AutoSketch, a couple of decades ago. I had hundreds of hours wasted and many designs were abandoned because I couldn't export them. AutoSketch was never a serious product. It was used to migrate users to AutoCAD LT, and then to AutoCAD. FreeCAD doesn't do everything you might want, but I've been very happy with it and I'm grateful to the open source programmers who make it possible. If all you want is 2D or 2.5D CAM for LinuxCNC, it may be all you need in its current state. FreeCAD is still under development, so it may have the features you need by the time you need them, but that's a risky proposition with free open source software. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Wed, Feb 3, 2021 at 8:48 AM Bruce Layne wrote: > and once you have tens or > hundreds of designs in their proprietary CAD format, they decide to > unilaterally change the deal and you're trapped. Moving away from Fusion360 is easy. Fusion allows you to save in ".STEP" format. I suggest you try moving a simple test project from Fusion360 to (say) OnShape just to prove you cannot be "trapped". (I've done this test. It's easy. Some of my Fusion files are now in OnShape.) I would not use a CAD system that did not allow saving work in a "universal" file format. But then it is hard to find such a CAD system. My "pass/fail" test for any CAD/CAM system is to make a battery powered hand drill or a "Saws All" type tool. A simpler test might be a computer mouse that has a kind of free-form shape. Another important test is the availability of high-quality training material. The big ones (Solid Works, OnShape Fusion360) all have this and even have the option of paid classes where you get a live instructor. Although most of us will use the free video classes. -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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I find Freecad a bit of a pain to use and it takes a lot of use to master (which I obviously haven't.) So I only use it occasionally for things my regular CAD/CAM software can't do. The thing I use it for most, simply finding the center of gravity of an artwork cut out shape, so I can correctly locate the position to mill a hanger on the back so that it will always hang straight. The only other thing I use it for is the rare occasion I might need to generate a tool path that sort of resembles a HSM tool path. Two things the woodworking oriented software I normally use is incapable of. Todd Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: Bruce Layne Sent: Wednesday, February 03, 2021 11:46 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. This is my annual warning that AutoDesk isn't The Benevolent Software Company, and they aren't in business to give you free stuff because you're so awesome. AutoDesk has a history of offering free or low cost software to entice users into investing their time to learn the software (this may be the highest cost of ownership), and once you have tens or hundreds of designs in their proprietary CAD format, they decide to unilaterally change the deal and you're trapped. They did this to me with AutoSketch, a couple of decades ago. I had hundreds of hours wasted and many designs were abandoned because I couldn't export them. AutoSketch was never a serious product. It was used to migrate users to AutoCAD LT, and then to AutoCAD. FreeCAD doesn't do everything you might want, but I've been very happy with it and I'm grateful to the open source programmers who make it possible. If all you want is 2D or 2.5D CAM for LinuxCNC, it may be all you need in its current state. FreeCAD is still under development, so it may have the features you need by the time you need them, but that's a risky proposition with free open source software. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
This is my annual warning that AutoDesk isn't The Benevolent Software Company, and they aren't in business to give you free stuff because you're so awesome. AutoDesk has a history of offering free or low cost software to entice users into investing their time to learn the software (this may be the highest cost of ownership), and once you have tens or hundreds of designs in their proprietary CAD format, they decide to unilaterally change the deal and you're trapped. They did this to me with AutoSketch, a couple of decades ago. I had hundreds of hours wasted and many designs were abandoned because I couldn't export them. AutoSketch was never a serious product. It was used to migrate users to AutoCAD LT, and then to AutoCAD. FreeCAD doesn't do everything you might want, but I've been very happy with it and I'm grateful to the open source programmers who make it possible. If all you want is 2D or 2.5D CAM for LinuxCNC, it may be all you need in its current state. FreeCAD is still under development, so it may have the features you need by the time you need them, but that's a risky proposition with free open source software. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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The hobby/free non-commercial download is on LH side of this page. https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/free-trial Renew it every year, free but of course limited to non-commercial use and no 4th axis etc. Gerrit -Original Message- From: Thomas J Powderly [mailto:tjt...@gmail.com] Sent: February 3, 2021 11:03 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software Hi Chris Fusion360 looks very nice. I see Fusion360 can run 'under linux', that is it can run in a VM. https://all3dp.com/2/fusion-360-for-linux-how-to-install-it/ but what did you download? What I see on the website [snipped] ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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I usually find it by googling Fusion 360 for personal use or Fusion 360 hobbyist. Gets you to https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Chris nevermind I found the hidden personal version https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal thx Greg Eshelman thx tomp http ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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Hi Chris Fusion360 looks very nice. I see Fusion360 can run 'under linux', that is it can run in a VM. https://all3dp.com/2/fusion-360-for-linux-how-to-install-it/ but what did you download? What I see on the website are a rented by year 495$ package an educator / student package and a 30 day trial package. I am neither a teacher or a student. My needs are hobbyist and 2 or 2 1/2D milling. Thx TomP ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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There's Heeks Cad/CAM. $10 for funding development. There's no limitations to the free version, the only difference is the free version inserts a note about the program at the beginning of the G-Code it outputs. Easy to delete with any text editor. On Tuesday, February 2, 2021, 12:33:20 PM MST, Chris Albertson wrote: The free Fusion360 license allows 2 and 3-axis milling, adaptive clearing, and turning. This is likely enough for most people. What you can't do is 4-axis and 5-axis milling. To enable that you do have to pay for a license more info here: https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal The other CAD options completely lack any build-in CAM functions. So it is pointless. Yes you could design using CA then hand-code you g-code but then you loose the guarantee that the g-code follows the design because there is an "air gap" in the work flow and it is VERY hard to make organic looking shaps with hand made g-code. My criteria for choosing software is "Could I use it to make a battery operated drill with the over-molded rounded case that fits your hand. Fusion360, even the free version would allow this if you split the case laterally to make to halves that assemble together. You couldn't use the free Fusion for a one-piece model of a drill because to mill that you'd need at least 4 axis If you do need better CAM to run a more complex machine tool and you are on a limited budget. There is a way to get SolidWorks at no cost if you are an EAA member. SoldWorks is the only other CAD I know of that includes CAM and can be had for zero or very low cost. ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On 2/2/21 2:13 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: You are reading old posts that were at best inaccurate. Yes, you can import/export data in Fusion. And they do limit you to "only" 10 open projects at the same time. So you have to close one to open an 11th one at the same time. Go to the Fusion360 web site for the correct information. That is what I just read in Dave's post The free license for Fusion is different, but of all the free CAD/CAM systems Fusion360 still has the best feature list. and the best support. I'll check what the licenses are. Free of course is always good, and of course comes with limitations. However, it ia a hobby that I play with/explore so now and then and don't want to dump mayor money in (the mill and lathe were given to me.) How do you convert your FreeCAD data to G-code? This is the biggest problem I have with it, how to move the design to a lathe or mill. I only see a path for that if doing 2 1/2 D milling. well, with freecad you can set up a job, and create a path within that job. You can select for what application/environment you want to create the g-code/path and linuxcnc is an option. (However I do see that sometimes these paths are not 'optimal' and sometimes even wrong. But again, hey , it's free, and with tinkering I can get around it. (Of course a 'real' machine shop would never do that, of course pay for good quality software as an investment. With me it is not an investment, it is just money spent. The g-code path is a file that you can 'export' (I do that either with nfs, or even ssh/scp, so it's on the machine that runs linuxcnc. In linuxcnc with axis I just pic it up, run it as a "simulation first and if I like what I see try to make the part. Linuxcnc is cool, it can do a lot more than I (as a hobbyist for sure) would ever need. Also, I like to tinker with electronics, the machines themselves, and this forum is great for that.) On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 11:44 AM R C wrote: Hi Chris, well, I am only looking into something different for making some parts on a lathe, I looked at fusion360, but what I hear is that you can't 'export' projects, or import, and also you can only have a few. Not that I do a lot of work, but it seems to be a hassle. I have a sherline (rebranded to Paxton/Patterson mill, so that is 3 axis as for now). I use freecad for the mill, and that's more than I'd need already. I was suprised that it doesn't generate code for lathes (although, I have the impression that people have been working on it, but not seen something really yet. (also I mght not know enough about machining, to understand why it is difficult to create something for a lathe, but not for a mill?) There's that gentleman here that has some modules with an interface (sorry man forgot your name), but somehow I never got that to work in linux cnc. (No movement, maybe I did get parameters wrong, maybe not setup right, dunno) So I am still looking, it is fairly easy for me to make thing is freecad, Also, I don't have a "professional machine shop" so I am not looking to spent significant amounts on software. Ron On 2/2/21 12:30 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: The free Fusion360 license allows 2 and 3-axis milling, adaptive clearing, and turning. This is likely enough for most people. What you can't do is 4-axis and 5-axis milling. To enable that you do have to pay for a license more info here: https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal The other CAD options completely lack any build-in CAM functions. So it is pointless. Yes you could design using CA then hand-code you g-code but then you loose the guarantee that the g-code follows the design because there is an "air gap" in the work flow and it is VERY hard to make organic looking shaps with hand made g-code. My criteria for choosing software is "Could I use it to make a battery operated drill with the over-molded rounded case that fits your hand. Fusion360, even the free version would allow this if you split the case laterally to make to halves that assemble together.You couldn't use the free Fusion for a one-piece model of a drill because to mill that you'd need at least 4 axis If you do need better CAM to run a more complex machine tool and you are on a limited budget. There is a way to get SolidWorks at no cost if you are an EAA member. SoldWorks is the only other CAD I know of that includes CAM and can be had for zero or very low cost. On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:18 AM R C wrote: Hello, I have been busy for a while with that pay check thing, and didn't have much time to look into creating g-code, that I can use in linux cnc for a lathe. Is there anything "new" yet? I was thinking about using fusion360, but I heard that is on it's way out for even a reasonable hobby priced license are there any alternatives? I found this video, and was wondering how well this works, has anyone done this?
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
You are reading old posts that were at best inaccurate. Yes, you can import/export data in Fusion. And they do limit you to "only" 10 open projects at the same time. So you have to close one to open an 11th one at the same time. Go to the Fusion360 web site for the correct information. The free license for Fusion is different, but of all the free CAD/CAM systems Fusion360 still has the best feature list. and the best support. How do you convert your FreeCAD data to G-code? This is the biggest problem I have with it, how to move the design to a lathe or mill. I only see a path for that if doing 2 1/2 D milling. On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 11:44 AM R C wrote: > Hi Chris, > > well, I am only looking into something different for making some parts > on a lathe, I looked at fusion360, but what I hear is that you can't > 'export' projects, or import, and also you can only have a few. Not > that I do a lot of work, but it seems to be a hassle. > > I have a sherline (rebranded to Paxton/Patterson mill, so that is 3 axis > as for now). > > I use freecad for the mill, and that's more than I'd need already. I > was suprised that it doesn't generate code for lathes (although, I have > the impression that people have been working on it, but not seen > something really yet. (also I mght not know enough about machining, to > understand why it is difficult to create something for a lathe, but not > for a mill?) > > > There's that gentleman here that has some modules with an interface > (sorry man forgot your name), but somehow I never got that to work in > linux cnc. (No movement, maybe I did get parameters wrong, maybe not > setup right, dunno) > > So I am still looking, it is fairly easy for me to make thing is freecad, > > > Also, I don't have a "professional machine shop" so I am not looking to > spent significant amounts on software. > > > Ron > > > > On 2/2/21 12:30 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: > > The free Fusion360 license allows 2 and 3-axis milling, adaptive > clearing, > > and turning. This is likely enough for most people. > > > > What you can't do is 4-axis and 5-axis milling. To enable that you do > have > > to pay for a license > > > > more info here: https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal > > > > The other CAD options completely lack any build-in CAM functions. So it > is > > pointless. Yes you could design using CA then hand-code you g-code but > > then you loose the guarantee that the g-code follows the design because > > there is an "air gap" in the work flow and it is VERY hard to make > organic > > looking shaps with hand made g-code. > > > > My criteria for choosing software is "Could I use it to make a battery > > operated drill with the over-molded rounded case that fits your hand. > > Fusion360, even the free version would allow this if you split the case > > laterally to make to halves that assemble together.You couldn't use > the > > free Fusion for a one-piece model of a drill because to mill that you'd > > need at least 4 axis > > > > If you do need better CAM to run a more complex machine tool and you are > on > > a limited budget. There is a way to get SolidWorks at no cost if you > are > > an EAA member. SoldWorks is the only other CAD I know of that includes > CAM > > and can be had for zero or very low cost. > > > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:18 AM R C wrote: > > > >> Hello, > >> > >> > >> I have been busy for a while with that pay check thing, and didn't have > >> much time to look into creating g-code, that I can use in linux cnc > >> for a lathe. > >> > >> > >> Is there anything "new" yet? I was thinking about using fusion360, but > >> I heard that is on it's way out for even a reasonable hobby priced > license > >> > >> > >> are there any alternatives? > >> > >> > >> I found this video, and was wondering how well this works, has anyone > >> done this? > >> > >> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuimIOZcty8 > >> > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Emc-users mailing list > >> Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > >> > > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
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On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 2:44 PM R C wrote: > Hi Chris, > > well, I am only looking into something different for making some parts > on a lathe, I looked at fusion360, but what I hear is that you can't > 'export' projects, or import, and also you can only have a few. Not > that I do a lot of work, but it seems to be a hassle. > > You heard wrong. You can import/export in a few formats and the project limit is for active projects. Basically click to archive one and click again to make an archived one active. I think the limit is 10 active. Dave ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
He's asking about for software for a lathe, not a mill. Mark On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 2:33 PM Chris Albertson wrote: > The free Fusion360 license allows 2 and 3-axis milling, adaptive clearing, > and turning. This is likely enough for most people. > > What you can't do is 4-axis and 5-axis milling. To enable that you do have > to pay for a license > > more info here: https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal > > The other CAD options completely lack any build-in CAM functions. So it is > pointless. Yes you could design using CA then hand-code you g-code but > then you loose the guarantee that the g-code follows the design because > there is an "air gap" in the work flow and it is VERY hard to make organic > looking shaps with hand made g-code. > > My criteria for choosing software is "Could I use it to make a battery > operated drill with the over-molded rounded case that fits your hand. > Fusion360, even the free version would allow this if you split the case > laterally to make to halves that assemble together.You couldn't use the > free Fusion for a one-piece model of a drill because to mill that you'd > need at least 4 axis > > If you do need better CAM to run a more complex machine tool and you are on > a limited budget. There is a way to get SolidWorks at no cost if you are > an EAA member. SoldWorks is the only other CAD I know of that includes CAM > and can be had for zero or very low cost. > > On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:18 AM R C wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > I have been busy for a while with that pay check thing, and didn't have > > much time to look into creating g-code, that I can use in linux cnc > > for a lathe. > > > > > > Is there anything "new" yet? I was thinking about using fusion360, but > > I heard that is on it's way out for even a reasonable hobby priced > license > > > > > > are there any alternatives? > > > > > > I found this video, and was wondering how well this works, has anyone > > done this? > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuimIOZcty8 > ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
Hi Chris, well, I am only looking into something different for making some parts on a lathe, I looked at fusion360, but what I hear is that you can't 'export' projects, or import, and also you can only have a few. Not that I do a lot of work, but it seems to be a hassle. I have a sherline (rebranded to Paxton/Patterson mill, so that is 3 axis as for now). I use freecad for the mill, and that's more than I'd need already. I was suprised that it doesn't generate code for lathes (although, I have the impression that people have been working on it, but not seen something really yet. (also I mght not know enough about machining, to understand why it is difficult to create something for a lathe, but not for a mill?) There's that gentleman here that has some modules with an interface (sorry man forgot your name), but somehow I never got that to work in linux cnc. (No movement, maybe I did get parameters wrong, maybe not setup right, dunno) So I am still looking, it is fairly easy for me to make thing is freecad, Also, I don't have a "professional machine shop" so I am not looking to spent significant amounts on software. Ron On 2/2/21 12:30 PM, Chris Albertson wrote: The free Fusion360 license allows 2 and 3-axis milling, adaptive clearing, and turning. This is likely enough for most people. What you can't do is 4-axis and 5-axis milling. To enable that you do have to pay for a license more info here: https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal The other CAD options completely lack any build-in CAM functions. So it is pointless. Yes you could design using CA then hand-code you g-code but then you loose the guarantee that the g-code follows the design because there is an "air gap" in the work flow and it is VERY hard to make organic looking shaps with hand made g-code. My criteria for choosing software is "Could I use it to make a battery operated drill with the over-molded rounded case that fits your hand. Fusion360, even the free version would allow this if you split the case laterally to make to halves that assemble together.You couldn't use the free Fusion for a one-piece model of a drill because to mill that you'd need at least 4 axis If you do need better CAM to run a more complex machine tool and you are on a limited budget. There is a way to get SolidWorks at no cost if you are an EAA member. SoldWorks is the only other CAD I know of that includes CAM and can be had for zero or very low cost. On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:18 AM R C wrote: Hello, I have been busy for a while with that pay check thing, and didn't have much time to look into creating g-code, that I can use in linux cnc for a lathe. Is there anything "new" yet? I was thinking about using fusion360, but I heard that is on it's way out for even a reasonable hobby priced license are there any alternatives? I found this video, and was wondering how well this works, has anyone done this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuimIOZcty8 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
Re: [Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
The free Fusion360 license allows 2 and 3-axis milling, adaptive clearing, and turning. This is likely enough for most people. What you can't do is 4-axis and 5-axis milling. To enable that you do have to pay for a license more info here: https://www.autodesk.com/products/fusion-360/personal The other CAD options completely lack any build-in CAM functions. So it is pointless. Yes you could design using CA then hand-code you g-code but then you loose the guarantee that the g-code follows the design because there is an "air gap" in the work flow and it is VERY hard to make organic looking shaps with hand made g-code. My criteria for choosing software is "Could I use it to make a battery operated drill with the over-molded rounded case that fits your hand. Fusion360, even the free version would allow this if you split the case laterally to make to halves that assemble together.You couldn't use the free Fusion for a one-piece model of a drill because to mill that you'd need at least 4 axis If you do need better CAM to run a more complex machine tool and you are on a limited budget. There is a way to get SolidWorks at no cost if you are an EAA member. SoldWorks is the only other CAD I know of that includes CAM and can be had for zero or very low cost. On Tue, Feb 2, 2021 at 10:18 AM R C wrote: > Hello, > > > I have been busy for a while with that pay check thing, and didn't have > much time to look into creating g-code, that I can use in linux cnc > for a lathe. > > > Is there anything "new" yet? I was thinking about using fusion360, but > I heard that is on it's way out for even a reasonable hobby priced license > > > are there any alternatives? > > > I found this video, and was wondering how well this works, has anyone > done this? > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuimIOZcty8 > > > > ___ > Emc-users mailing list > Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users > -- Chris Albertson Redondo Beach, California ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
[Emc-users] lathe paths with linux cnc and CAD software
Hello, I have been busy for a while with that pay check thing, and didn't have much time to look into creating g-code, that I can use in linux cnc for a lathe. Is there anything "new" yet? I was thinking about using fusion360, but I heard that is on it's way out for even a reasonable hobby priced license are there any alternatives? I found this video, and was wondering how well this works, has anyone done this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cuimIOZcty8 ___ Emc-users mailing list Emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/emc-users
