Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-20 Thread James Isaac via Emc-users
In the 1970's, there was a siphon fed aquarium filter,  with a motor outside the aquarium, attached to the bottom of the filter basket.The top of the filter basket held glass or polyester type filter materials, with a following layer of water conditioning carbon pellets.The return pump was at

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-19 Thread Chris Albertson
Advice from aquariu use. Place EVERYTHING inside the tank if you can, filters and all. Leaks then don't make a mess, broken hoses don't make a mess. Of course, you can not place the spindle motor in the tank but assuming the motor is the only thing not in the tank, there are only two

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-19 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 3:34:37 PM EST gene heskett wrote: replying to myself to issue a warning and a fix. > I just fired up the 6040 to make a pocket for a 3mm sq nut. Noted that > I put > half a cup of lysol bathroom spray in it. But haven't disconnected it > so I can dump the tank in the

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-18 Thread Chris Albertson
I've run these before. Just place a filter in the system. Whatever else you do is secondary. Dirt, bugs spiders and whatever don't matter if there is a filter. If you are not running a production shop that filter will see only a few hours a week of use and last "forever". The simplest

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-18 Thread gene heskett
On Tuesday, January 18, 2022 8:39:09 AM EST Todd Zuercher wrote: > Automotive applications were predominately iron, aluminum, and some > plastic with almost no copper for a very long time before different > color antifreezes became common. > One side effect of cooling stuff like a spindle motor

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
Zuercher P. Graham Dunn Inc. 630 Henry Street  Dalton, Ohio 44618 Phone:  (330)828-2105ext. 2031 -Original Message- From: andy pugh Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2022 9:27 AM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles. [EXTERNAL

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-18 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 18 Jan 2022 at 14:18, Todd Zuercher wrote: > > Automotive applications were predominately iron, aluminum, and some plastic > with almost no copper for a very long time before different color antifreezes > became common. Depends on your perspective, there is lots of copper in the

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-18 Thread Todd Zuercher
- From: Thaddeus Waldner Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 6:42 PM To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) Subject: Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles. [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. The color is a dye to identify what kind of additives are added. In general, green

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-17 Thread Gregg Eshelman via Emc-users
I bet the coolant made for Toyota Prius engines and power inverters would be ideal for a CNC spindle motor. It only comes as a premix, and is only available from Zerex or Toyota. It's made with distilled and deionized water so it's completely non-conductive. What might be a strike against it is

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-17 Thread Milosz K.
Once biologics get into a system, clean out is the first step. However, no amount of filtration can remove them all, if you don't kill all the bacteria it will come back. Just passing along what I learned from a Rustlick rep many years ago. On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 6:29 PM gene heskett wrote: >

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-17 Thread Thaddeus Waldner
The color is a dye to identify what kind of additives are added. In general, green is the older concoction and is designed for steel and copper, whereas the yellow or orange stuff has additives that are better suited for the plastic and aluminum coolant system parts in modern vehicles. I don’t

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-17 Thread gene heskett
On Monday, January 17, 2022 12:06:19 PM EST Milosz K. wrote: > Triadine 20 at no more than 1oz per 5 gallons. > Not too bad a price once Amazon breaks up the 6 pack minimum. OTOH, it does read like nasty, dangerous stuff. I'll see how well todays cleanup works, first. > On Sun, Jan 16, 2022,

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-17 Thread gene heskett
P. Graham Dunn Inc. > 630 Henry Street > Dalton, Ohio 44618 > Phone: (330)828-2105ext. 2031 > > -Original Message- > From: Les Newell > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:23 AM > To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-17 Thread Milosz K.
Triadine 20 at no more than 1oz per 5 gallons. On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, 3:37 PM gene heskett wrote: > I just fired up the 6040 to make a pocket for a 3mm sq nut. Noted that > the coolant tank was down about an inch from evaporation, but hand hand > on the tank could feel the pump buzzing so I

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-17 Thread Todd Zuercher
Message- From: Les Newell Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 8:23 AM To: emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles. [EXTERNAL EMAIL] Be sure links are safe. I'd really recommend not using copper sulphate. It is corrosive to many metals

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-17 Thread Les Newell
I'd really recommend not using copper sulphate. It is corrosive to many metals, especially aluminium. In my laser and tig welder I use 20 - 30% propylene glycol in deionised/distilled water. Propylene glycol is the active ingredient in most RV antifreeze, without the dye and other additives.

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 5:05:13 PM EST andy pugh wrote: > On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 21:44, gene heskett wrote: > > I first started out with rv antifreeze, but it spoiled and jelled > > solid > I think I would be tempted to try the waterless coolant that they sell > for cars, though that would

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread Chris Albertson
I would stick with water. it is cheap and has very high specific heat. It is really hard to beat water. I had a water cooling system used to cool the hot side of a thermoelectric module. I used an old 50-gallon aquarium tank as the reservoir and for a pump, I used an aquarium cartridge filter

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread John Figie
I wonder if Miller Industrial Supreme antifreeze/coolant would work, stock no 043 810. I use it in my TIG cooler. I bought the stuff from a local welding supply store and filled the radiator tank about 8 years ago. I never changed it (they recommend yearly). Your message prompted me to look in the

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread dave engvall
Cu inhibits algae and should do a decent job on most bacteria. So a bit of Cu sulfate. Zn chloride and or ferrous chloride inhibits moss but the ferrous oxidizes to ferric and stains siding/concrete so use the chloride. In a pinch just use a bit of Clorox; even peroxide should do the job. If

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread andy pugh
On Sun, 16 Jan 2022 at 21:44, gene heskett wrote: > I first started out with rv antifreeze, but it spoiled and jelled solid I think I would be tempted to try the waterless coolant that they sell for cars, though that would depend on how much was needed. It's not cheap.

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread gene heskett
On Sunday, January 16, 2022 4:01:01 PM EST andrew beck wrote: > Why not just engine coolant Is that what you are using? I first started out with rv antifreeze, but it spoiled and jelled solid couldn't even bore it out or blow it with 125 psi of air, plugging up the first spindle motor in about

Re: [Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread andrew beck
Why not just engine coolant On Mon, 17 Jan 2022, 09:37 gene heskett, wrote: > I just fired up the 6040 to make a pocket for a 3mm sq nut. Noted that > the coolant tank was down about an inch from evaporation, but hand hand > on the tank could feel the pump buzzing so I assumed it was working.

[Emc-users] motor coolant for water cooled spindles.

2022-01-16 Thread gene heskett
I just fired up the 6040 to make a pocket for a 3mm sq nut. Noted that the coolant tank was down about an inch from evaporation, but hand hand on the tank could feel the pump buzzing so I assumed it was working. Its an 80 gallon an hour submersible, probably for aquariums and such. So I