Re: [-empyre-] June on empyre now open for discussion!

2015-06-06 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Jo, this is absolutely fascinating work, also a very suggestive experiment. You are using techniques one might use trying to communicate with extra terrestrials, understanding a totally different kind of code. I suppose in the colonizers'

Re: [-empyre-] Welcome to our June topic on -empyre: Plant Art and New Media

2015-06-06 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi Yi, thank you for your post. I am glad I won't be the only person pushing that point of view. Exactly as you say, part of the purpose of exploration needs to be a way of understanding the other, truly other, in its own terms. Such an

Re: [-empyre-] Welcome to our June topic on -empyre: Plant Art and New Media

2015-06-06 Thread Patrick Keilty
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Murat, We're all pushing for a point of view that challenges the hegemony of liberal humanism. I certainly think a turn to the nonhuman is an excellent approach. Methodologically it's a major intervention. It raises a series of important

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2015-06-06 Thread Graham Teeple
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- Wow! What a wonderful discussion to find. I am also sorry to be joining in so late. Patrick and Murat - your discussion about the world beyond humans is one I love and fear thinking about. Projects like these are such great tools for

Re: [-empyre-] Plants, sounds, context-shifts

2015-06-06 Thread Johannes Birringer
--empyre- soft-skinned space-- thank you all for an interesting start to a discussion (on plant / art) that took me by surprise... and as I am catching up on listening, to plants (not thinking of them at all as extraterrerestial not even in metaphor but as part and

Re: [-empyre-] June on empyre now open for discussion!

2015-06-06 Thread jsa
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Hi Murat, thank you for your questions. I'm glad to share my work with empyre participants and appreciate the support of my project. In response to a) The music the leaves play, the sounds they make, are they programmed by you? Could you

Re: [-empyre-] Welcome to our June topic on -empyre: Plant Art and New Media

2015-06-06 Thread Murat Nemet-Nejat
--empyre- soft-skinned space--But I wonder, too, if we can truly understand the other, in its own terms, as you suggest, and whether our desire to do so is not simply a symptom of our own humanity. As you say, we are bound by our own humanity, and the result will remain

Re: [-empyre-] Welcome to our June topic on -empyre: Plant Art and New Media

2015-06-06 Thread jsa
--empyre- soft-skinned space--Happy June, everyone! Thanks for starting off the discussion. My apologies for joining later in the week. I started corresponding yesterday with Murat on another thread, I'm now sharing on this thread. I am an interdisciplinary artist