Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity

2010-01-09 Thread Christina Spiesel
At the most general level, Simon, your description rings true to me. That acknowledged, I would point out that there is huge human variability at every level, from atomic biology on up, and each level has aspects that are discrete unto themselves. At another high level of abstraction, for

Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity

2010-01-09 Thread Gerry Coulter
re Simon's point about metaphysics being put to bed: If metaphysics has been put to bed then we are indeed in the hyperreal. But there are two sides to metaphysics -- the side that seeks to control the world -- the realm of the Good, and the other side, less mentioned, that deals in doubles,

Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity

2010-01-09 Thread Gerry Coulter
Greg Ulmer makes a lovely point concerning the (wisdom) metaphysical traditions and complicity in his reply to J Drucker But the point is not the desire to opt out -- but to see what you are part of as if from without. This is hard for many because things like patriotism get jetissoned (and

[-empyre-] a genealogy of disappearance?

2010-01-09 Thread Nicholas Ruiz III
We've spent some time discussing an assumed complicity with the world and its events, art, politics and thought. We acknowledge our position as an assumption, however well evinced and founded. Might we take another tack? Perhaps it is too late for complicity. What if, by now, when complicity

Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity

2010-01-09 Thread Simon Biggs
Yes, I agree. That¹s why I said it is complicated... Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art s.bi...@eca.ac.uk www.eca.ac.uk Creative Interdisciplinary Research into CoLlaborative Environments CIRCLE research group www.eca.ac.uk/circle/ si...@littlepig.org.uk

Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity

2010-01-09 Thread Saul Ostrow
And what extends from this proposition - or is merely a ode to bad faith On 1/9/10 6:23 AM, Simon Biggs s.bi...@eca.ac.uk wrote: In short, everyone is always complicit. -- ___ empyre forum empyre@lists.cofa.unsw.edu.au http://www.subtle.net/empyre

Re: [-empyre-] some thoughts on complicity

2010-01-09 Thread Sean Cubitt
Saul has a very bright thought. Further etymological notations: Theatre de Complicite, now just Complicite (http://www.complicite.org/), the British theatre group, seem to understand the term, since they started in the early 80s, to mean collaboration, including mixing various technical devices