[-empyre-] Onomasticities

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Angelo Tata, PhD
Hi, Johanna et al! First off, I must say that I enjoyed David’s re-branding post immensely. In particular, the trope of re-branding is absolutely loaded—especially within the context of Business Art and the fraught relationship between art and advertising. I know that Johanna is quite

[-empyre-] Delightenment as Mass Perception

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Angelo Tata, PhD
Hi, Johanna! Your remarks about aesthetic practice and it roots in brute sensation take me to Dewey’s anti-elitist somatism in Art as Experience and Alexander Baumgarten’s original sense of what aesthetics could mean back in the 18th century, when this discipline was first systematized in

[-empyre-] Secular Sacrilege

2010-01-14 Thread Michael Angelo Tata, PhD
Hi, Davin! Thanks for the super-fantastic Richard Serra link--you are consummately the best when it comes to selecting just the right encapsulating instant. What an amazing controversy! What agitated publics, what disrupted privates, what interrupted and intercepted and bisected and

Re: [-empyre-] self and others

2010-01-14 Thread gh hovagimyan
gh comments below: On Jan 13, 2010, at 2:15 PM, Christiane Robbins wrote: it seems that we always keep landing on this flea ridden canard – “what is art ?” What is Art? Flea ridden indeed! Analyze the question and you get the premise for an avant-garde. No-one asks that question anymore

Re: [-empyre-] Delightenment as Mass Perception

2010-01-14 Thread Nicholas Ruiz III
the arts of complicity, with regard to predatorial unicellular beauties benefiting from cooperation and cooptation, albeit accidentally and contingently, and with no concept of altruism... harold ford implodes...

Re: [-empyre-] self and others

2010-01-14 Thread Nicholas Ruiz III
it seems there has always been an unnameable economy, Bataille referred to as the 'general' economy...we, quite powerfully, modulate such an economy; socially, technically - for better and worse. An interesting biological aspect of this economy,Tata referenced via Margulis' work on

Re: [-empyre-] self and others

2010-01-14 Thread Gerry Coulter
The support system for art can operate as either a positive or negative influence. In the West today it includes an art market that doesnt care much about art as anything other than an investment. best g From: empyre-boun...@gamera.cofa.unsw.edu.au

Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13

2010-01-14 Thread davin heckman
Gerry, I hate to continue pushing on a point... because I don't want to be a pest. At the same time, I'd like to get a better understanding of your comments. I do believe that art could very well be the product of some primordial impulse, that it might be useful to assign it something

Re: [-empyre-] empyre Digest, Vol 62, Issue 13

2010-01-14 Thread Gerry Coulter
Re; But once it enters into materiality once it is cast into the realm of representation... I don't know how it can avoid being entangled and burdened by the stuff it is made of (its words, its substance, its space of presentation, its framing discourse, the interpretive traditions around

Re: [-empyre-] Delightenment as Mass Perception

2010-01-14 Thread Johanna Drucker
Michael, Wonderful wonderful! I couldn't agree more! I love Brian Green's work, by the way. I wrote a book called QUantum awhile back (artist's book), and have invoked quantum theory in the projects around speculative computing (SpecLab). Absolutely agree that we need to engage with

Re: [-empyre-] Delightenment as Mass Perception

2010-01-14 Thread naxsmash
Johanna have you got a url or download site for your Quantum ? I love this idea of your book. But i need some enightenment (from MichelA. too) - can you shed lumieres on Luhmann? I have been riffing for a while on this sense (sixth sense) that autopoesis a la Maturana etc is a linguistic