Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-06 Thread Eugenio Tisselli
Hi all, Helen, I find that UpStage is a very interesting example of an online community, since it states its scope (and thus its borders) quite clearly from the beginning. Networks like this make a lot of sense, as they can really help people with common and specific interests come together

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-06 Thread helen varley jamieson
hi eugenio all, yes, i definitely agree that community ( trust) needs to be built on common interest or connection; with UpStage it is the technology/platform that is the specific common thing - otherwise it's quite diverse, in terms of individual approach, themes, ideas, backgrounds. the

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-06 Thread Yunzi Li
Dear Eugenio, Thanks for your reply. I am very interested in the creative community you talked about, however, it is actually related to politics as well. I think Censorship should be paid close attention to when we discuss cyberformance. For some countries like China, facebook is forbidden.

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-06 Thread G.H. Hovagimyan
I believe the cognitive scientists say that language is acquired and learned at an early age and it has to do with establishing neural paths. This establishment of neural paths stops or slows down dramatically after a certain age. (Is it 4 years old?) From there the social aspects of

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-06 Thread christopher sullivan
Hello all. one of the curious problems that arise in the notion of community, democratic, creative modes, is whether the artists primary function is not in fact cultural critique, and not cultural celebration. The notion of trust, here in some ways implies that no one will be challenged, all

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-06 Thread davin heckman
Simon, I think this is a valid question if we don't let it insist on a firm resolution. At times, it certainly does seem like people want to go somewhere. At other times it seems as though we can be quite content where we are. This points back to Eugenio Tisselli's comments regarding the

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-06 Thread helen varley jamieson
hi chris, i was talking about trust between collaborating artists, as an important aspect of community in the wider context. i don't see how this implies the production of un-challenging work, or feel-good art. could you expand on what you mean? h : ) On 6/07/10 7:18 PM, christopher

Re: [-empyre-] Creativity as a social ontology

2010-07-06 Thread Kevin Hamilton
Hello all - Thanks to Simon for framing this discussion so well. Starting with ontology over epistemology is a great place to go, so I look forward to the coming month. For now, I'll just contribute a few quotes and examples in response to the threads so far. First - in relation to comments